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What's Your Goal/Expectation For 2014-15?
Created: 7/28/2014 2:10:19 PMReplies: 17
7/28/2014 2:10:19 PM - The MV - 4,343 posts (#4)

What better time than late July to give some thought as to your realistic goals and expectations for the upcoming season. Another way of putting this is would be to define what you would regard as a disappointing season as well as what would constitute a successful one.

Here are my thoughts.  First, I'd have to say that anything less than an NIT appearance would have to be considered disappointing.  This would include those lesser end-of-year buy-in tournaments.  There appears to be enough returning talent combined with a very talented freshman class to suggest that at least an NIT appearance should be anticipated.  Next, a first round NIT loss wouldn't make me happy but wouldn't be devastating either.  There is a ton of talent in college basketball and such a loss could be considered the rough equivalent of having lost to Marquette last season.  Not shocking.  At least one win in the NIT would be significant and a string of wins would be tremendous, giving the team that much more experrience and confidence headed into the following year (apologies to John Kopriva), when I believe the "expectation ante" should be upped by quite a bit.

It's easy to say that a first-game NCAA tournament loss would represent a lack of progress (same result as this past year) but I don't see this that way at all.  What many fans seem to forget is that unless you are consistently landing among the top high school talent in the country annually, it is very challenging to make the NCAA tournament.   An NCAA appearance next year should be considered an even more monumental achievement than this season given the departures of Zeke, Mo and Nemanja (despite the added experience our returning players will have received).  The big differences are that on the plus side, we will (hopefully) receive a healthy and productive season from Kethan, while on the flip side, GW will be sneaking up on nobody. (For example, if we were to face a Wichita State in Hawaii, I believe they'd be perceiving GW a bit differently than the way Creighton did this past season.)  So needless,to say, I'd be very content with an NCAA appearance, thrilled with one NCAA tournament win, and off the deep end over multiple wins.     

7/28/2014 2:27:24 PM - Boston Colonial - 295 posts (#75)

20 wins, one A-10 tourney win and at least NIT

7/28/2014 2:36:56 PM - Dootie Bubble - 1,827 posts (#17)

Final Four or bust.

7/28/2014 2:44:57 PM - Steven - 196 posts (#104)

Undefeated season IMHO

7/28/2014 2:47:24 PM - Abe - 238 posts (#91)

It's probably unfair because Zeke was a really big loss and I anticipate there being struggles to defend bigs in the post and rebound consistently, but I'm expecting another NCAA appearance this season.

My main reasons for optimism:

-Three of the Core Four: Pato, Kethan, and Joe (knock on wood) are all healthier than they were last year. If we can get full productive seasons out of them, that will be big.

-Anticipating this recruit class will provide a lot better depth this year, especially at the guard position.

-I think ML will be able to do some good things scheme-wise with the 1-3-1 and running a small lineup on offense.

We'll see how it plays out, the schedule is definitely challenging but taking the above into account I think making the dance is doable.

7/28/2014 3:16:41 PM - NewGWFan - 396 posts (#56)

I agree that loss of Zeke is huge, but that being said, I think this team will be significantly better at the end of the season than it will be at the beginning of the season.  I'm not sure you can say that about last years team.  Last year the injuries really effected the team from being 100% of what they could have been.  I know injuries can happen any year and everything but I think this team will progress and get better as the season goes on.

I haven't heard a lot of chatter that this team could actually be better than last years team but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.  Think about last years team, of the main contributors they lose Zeke, Creek, and Mikic.  From the point Savage went down with the injury, and JoeMac played through multiple games hurt, and Creek had a big time cold spell during conference play, they still managed to put together a great season.

This years version will obviously face their own adversity, but think about what they are gaininig over last years team.  A healthy JoeMac and Savage.  An influx of depth with the freshman class.  Ryan McCoy (could make some kind of impact?) at minimum replaces what Paris did last year.  Not to mention another year of experience for the players in the program.

I think it's very possible this team could end up back in the NCAA that's a realistic goal with a top 4 finish in the A-10.

I think if your taking a pessamistic view point the a disappointing season would be some bad early season OOC losses followed up by version of the LaSalle 2013-14 season where they miss out on any post season play and regress burning up much of the good will the team built up in the area and the local media over the past season.

7/28/2014 4:03:37 PM - BGF - 159 posts (#120)

I believe we are going to be in the top 4 in the A-10.  Yes, we've lost talent, but we have gained a solid recruiting class, a healthy Kethan Savage, and a practicing Joe McDonald.  In other words, we should be no worse than last year.

I believe at least 4 A-10 teams will make the NCAA Tourney again.

Therefore I believe we are an NCAA Tourney team.

Everything after that is gravy.

7/28/2014 4:10:05 PM - ziik - 2,501 posts (#11)

1) ML's Euro trip of last year results in another mature, quality recruit with size by start of school

2) after a damned tough November/December, the team is tough enough to take the A-10 tourney, and does so

 

7/28/2014 4:55:37 PM - Bo Knows - 388 posts (#58)

1. Goal - NCAA Tournament (same as every year)

2. Expectations: We will be a deeper team that if healthy will be a better team at the end of the season than at the beginning. We will not win as many games as in 2013-14 but we may be a stronger team at the end. The ability to play more lineups and create more competition in practices will serve this team very well in the long run. My only concern will be our frontcourt and how we deal with the loss of Armwood. I believe our backcourt if helathy will deal better with the loss of Mo Creek. If we can rebound and defend the post well we are going to win big.

7/28/2014 7:15:35 PM - Tk - 171 posts (#115)

Same as last year.  2016: sweet 16 or bust 

7/28/2014 7:38:52 PM - Orel Miraculous - 216 posts (#97)

Expectation is to make the NCAA tournament.  Yes, losing Armwood hurts. But for all the talk about Zeek and Creek, the core of the team last year was made up of four sophomores.  All of them are returning, all of them are healthy, and all of them should be better, so now isn't the time to lower expectations. 

I will be disappointed if we fail to make out of the first round, but not disappointed in a the-team-failed-to-live-up-to-its-potential way, but more of a come-the-fuck-on-how-many-times-are-we-just-gonna-bow-out-by-Friday-night way.

7/28/2014 7:42:14 PM - pops - 299 posts (#73)

if we stay healthy i believe we will be better than last year.  our record may not be quite as good because i think we have a harder OOC schedule? on the other hand the A10 won't be as difficult.  being healthy is the key.  everyone talks about the savage and McDonald injuries but we forget that Garino missed or played hurt most of the 1st half.

we should battle at the top of the A10 with VCU and URI who in addition to others will have Jared Hare back.  Also i think that losing mumford will be addition by subtraction for them.

7/28/2014 8:24:26 PM - Omar Comin' - 467 posts (#47)

Top 5 in the A-10, two players on A-10 All-Conference Teams, NCAA First Round or NIT 3rd Round.

7/28/2014 9:54:51 PM - Longing for Oscar - 1,010 posts (#29)

In my opinion, we've lost our two best players to graduation.  If we are healthy (and stay healthy) i think we can compensate for the losss of Creek, but I don't see how this team overcomes the loss of Armwood.  Larsen's a terrific player, but he'll never be as quick  or have the nose for the ball like Armwood.  That being said, I think we might be an NCAA bubble team and just to be in the discussion would exceed my expectation.  On another note, 2015-2016 could be an incredible year for us.  

7/28/2014 10:30:38 PM - Raining cats and dogs - 9 posts (#239)

We are in great shape in the backcourt and on the wing.  Can Larsen, Garino, Kopriva, McCoy, Watanabe, Cimino give us enough size and strength upfront.  Hope and think so.

7/29/2014 12:12:52 AM - bobo - 2,929 posts (#8)

No reason GW can't go back to the Dance next season.  I have them 3rd in the A10 after VCU and Dayton and ahead of UMASS and RU.  For GW to rise up I think Garino will have to take the next step offensively.  The broken finger clearly affected Garino's shooting touch as he struggled at the line and was much more reluctant to shoot 3s than his freshman year.  If GW can get too 3pt shooting from Garino, McDonald, Griffin and Jorgensen they should be a better offensive team than the year before.

Defensively, the 1-3-1 should be very effectie with Patricio up front and all the lenth on the wings.  Maybe Lonergan can mix it up more with 2-3 zones, man and press at times.  With all the injuries last year it had to be hard to work in multiple defensive sets.  Obvious potential hole in GW's chances next year is the front cort D and rebounding.  Somehow Lonergan needs to get about 25 minutes/game from Cimino and Yuta (my pick for back up 4).  This is a real question mark and there's not a lot of good options if at least 1 or these 2 can't battle big men down low and grab some boards.  Expect a lot of quick hooks and dirty looks from Lonergan for these 2.

But GW can still have a good year and not make the Tourney.  Last year, GW got on a nice roll in the OOC.  Close wins against Miami and Maryland helped. So did a good matchup vs a high RPI team in Creighton.  That kind of stuff is hard to repeat and a couple of close losses in the OOC would likely change GW's post season fortunes.

7/29/2014 12:24:48 AM - GW Fan - 446 posts (#49)

My Goals/Expectations expectations for 2014/15?

Goals: Drop 5-10 lbs plus 6-pack abs
Expectations: Gain 5-10 lbs plus many 6-packs of Longboard & Fat Tire

As far as the team goes my goals/expectations are a top 3 finish in conference, playing in the A-10 tourney final, and an NCAA bid.  I think the tough OOC schedule will allow ML to evaluate the newcomers and prepare the team for a strong showing in-conference.  I think we have a lot of offense coming back and will have more bench scoring this upcoming season than last. The big question mark will be defensive rebounding and limiting second chance points, especially when we go to the 1-3-1 zone.  I'm optimistic that we'll be able to rebound well with a starting lineup of Kevlar, Pato, Joe, Kethan and JK, who all rebound well for their positions, and I'm sure ML will be emphasizing defense and rebounding to all of the newcomers.

7/29/2014 12:50:55 AM - Long Suffering Fan - 3,498 posts (#6)

17-19 wins, 500 in conference,  CBI bid.  Fact is, we are only returning 4 proven players (2 coming off of major injuries) and 2 role players (Kopriva and Griffin).  After that it is 5 freshman and a walk on.  (Who am I forgetting...thats only 11 scholarship players plus McCoy).  In any event, it is hard to win with freshmen playing a sigificant role.   The Hall/Pops/Omar class struggled their freshmen year as did the Joe Mac, Patricio, Larsen and Kethan class.  There is an adjustment period...a learning curve (unless you are Kentucky or Duke).  Some very good returning talent is going to make us a winning team.  The lack of veteran depth is going to prevent us from approaching last year.  

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