Board

Lonergan Midterm Grade = C-
Replies: 29
5/24/2013 1:26:22 PM
Just Killing Time

Gregg Ritchie Named Atlantic 10 Baseball Coach of the Year
Replies: 2
5/24/2013 12:32:32 PM
GWSB '11

Calling all Colonials (just got this email)
Replies: 9
5/24/2013 12:06:11 PM
NJ Colonial

The Roster As We Know It.
Replies: 2
5/24/2013 6:57:06 AM
Chicago Colonial

The Roster As We Know It.
Replies: 3
5/23/2013 11:29:33 PM
Chicago Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/23/2013
Replies: 0
5/23/2013 10:51:20 PM
herve

RECRUIT: NANA FOULLAND
Replies: 3
5/23/2013 10:36:35 PM
BM

Kenner League
Replies: 6
5/23/2013 6:28:46 PM
Tuna Can

The "Wink and Nod Club " ---A Parody
Replies: 20
5/23/2013 4:41:08 PM
Cutis

RECRUIT: BONZIE COLSON
Replies: 9
5/23/2013 2:37:05 PM
BM

GW vs Maryland in BB&T
Replies: 49
5/23/2013 11:39:30 AM
BM

Kromah to transfer
Replies: 152
5/23/2013 6:14:17 AM
Abe

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/22/2013
Replies: 0
5/22/2013 10:51:23 PM
herve

New Court Design
Replies: 33
5/22/2013 1:35:02 PM
rocket

OT: Tragedy in Potomac
Replies: 1
5/22/2013 9:54:45 AM
MOCO Observer

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/21/2013
Replies: 0
5/21/2013 10:56:58 PM
herve

Talk about bad p.r.
Replies: 4
5/21/2013 5:58:17 PM
GW Alum Abroad

Love it
Replies: 4
5/21/2013 5:52:46 PM
ELJ

OT: Tragedy in Potomac
Replies: 0
5/21/2013 4:19:17 PM
MOCO Observer

Is today the last day
Replies: 1
5/21/2013 3:00:57 PM
GWSB '11

RECRUIT: CJ KEYSER
Replies: 3
5/21/2013 10:02:29 AM
BM

RECRUIT: MARTIN GEBEN
Replies: 38
5/21/2013 9:52:12 AM
Florida Colonial

RECRUIT: MIKAL BRIDGES
Replies: 6
5/21/2013 9:48:11 AM
Florida Colonial

Who is on the team as of NOW?
Replies: 1
5/21/2013 9:30:54 AM
Old Prof

RECRUIT: JON DAVIS
Replies: 2
5/21/2013 12:57:02 AM
BM

Mikic graduates in 3 years (via @gw_mbb twitter)
Replies: 10
5/21/2013 12:55:13 AM
cagwu

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/20/2013
Replies: 0
5/20/2013 10:54:32 PM
herve

Official college football smack-talking thread
Replies: 587
5/20/2013 4:34:37 PM
GW Alum Abroad

David Pellom to Memphis
Replies: 44
5/20/2013 12:30:10 PM
donte

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/19/2013
Replies: 0
5/19/2013 10:51:29 PM
herve

RECRUIT: NICK GRIFFIN
Replies: 101
5/19/2013 10:11:43 PM
CPots

RECRUIT: BYRON HAWKINS
Replies: 11
5/19/2013 1:05:54 PM
herve

Oct 4, 2014
Replies: 7
5/19/2013 10:22:56 AM
Tuna Can

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/18/2013
Replies: 0
5/18/2013 10:51:22 PM
herve

Superstar added to Lonergan's facebook!
Replies: 3
5/18/2013 8:51:20 PM
Martiniboy

Why Next Year Is Pretty Darn Critical
Replies: 23
5/18/2013 6:04:37 PM
The MV

OT: Bo Jackson
Replies: 6
5/18/2013 5:41:01 PM
herve

RECRUIT: DEVIN ROBINSON
Replies: 6
5/18/2013 2:34:02 PM
BM

another possible transfer (immediately eligible)
Replies: 37
5/18/2013 12:33:07 PM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/17/2013
Replies: 0
5/17/2013 10:51:22 PM
herve

OOC Schedule Thread
Replies: 14
5/17/2013 12:40:55 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/16/2013
Replies: 0
5/16/2013 10:51:36 PM
herve

Several GW Women Get Another Year to Play
Replies: 5
5/16/2013 5:22:16 PM
ziik

George makes some headlines
Replies: 2
5/16/2013 11:05:09 AM
BM

Big George trying to get into Captain America 2
Replies: 0
5/16/2013 11:03:59 AM
squid

SJT -- Not a Bad Guy at All
Replies: 48
5/16/2013 10:51:33 AM
Tuna Can

Quick Question: Outstanding Offers
Replies: 7
5/16/2013 10:19:58 AM
wax daddy

what we know so far
Replies: 5
5/16/2013 8:40:31 AM
formerly boston pops

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/15/2013
Replies: 0
5/15/2013 10:51:58 PM
herve

could they boot us out of barclays?
Replies: 5
5/15/2013 10:03:01 PM
tk

RECRUIT: ANTON WATERS
Replies: 4
5/15/2013 9:37:20 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/14/2013
Replies: 0
5/14/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

RECRUIT: TYLER NELSON
Replies: 8
5/14/2013 9:18:04 PM
BM

RECRUIT: DOMINIQUE BULL
Replies: 80
5/14/2013 4:47:57 PM
BM

Who is Lionel Coleman
Replies: 1
5/14/2013 4:47:43 PM
Phil_Raw_

SJT and Left Coast
Replies: 0
5/14/2013 10:36:58 AM
kdb sand diego

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/13/2013
Replies: 0
5/13/2013 10:52:29 PM
herve

RECRUIT: SANDY COHEN
Replies: 34
5/13/2013 9:25:10 PM
Florida Colonial

RECRUIT: ANTHONY SWAN
Replies: 0
5/13/2013 4:51:10 PM
GCLY89

Rutgers Can't Catch a Break ...
Replies: 12
5/13/2013 4:41:57 PM
The Eagle Has Landed

RYAN MCCOY
Replies: 58
5/13/2013 4:16:10 PM
ATL Colonial

RECRUIT: RYAN LUTHER
Replies: 1
5/13/2013 2:17:37 PM
BM

for those of you looking for new digs....
Replies: 2
5/13/2013 12:59:03 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MIKE WILLIAMS
Replies: 7
5/13/2013 9:57:07 AM
BM

New Team
Replies: 0
5/13/2013 8:37:54 AM
Spotter

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/12/2013
Replies: 0
5/12/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

Happy Mother's Day-Mrs. Tallent,
Replies: 2
5/12/2013 10:19:02 PM
ziik

UVA Transfer-Paul Jesperson
Replies: 16
5/12/2013 9:54:08 PM
bam

"RECRUITS" tab currently broken, but NOTHING has been lost. will fix ASAP. sorry. nt
Replies: 6
5/12/2013 7:34:40 PM
herve

It's Lonergan
Replies: 99
5/11/2013 11:44:39 PM


gwhoops.com Digest - 5/11/2013
Replies: 0
5/11/2013 10:51:36 PM
herve

GW about to Rope in another A10 Sport--Now back to your regularly scheduled angst
Replies: 17
5/11/2013 4:50:39 PM
Tuna Can

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/10/2013
Replies: 0
5/10/2013 10:51:32 PM
herve

RECRUIT: ISIAH TRIPP
Replies: 5
5/10/2013 2:21:41 PM
BM

RECRUIT: JAMAL ROBINSON
Replies: 5
5/10/2013 8:43:41 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/9/2013
Replies: 0
5/9/2013 10:51:28 PM
herve

Ryan McCoy from Manhattan?
Replies: 0
5/9/2013 4:45:47 PM
Steven

Maurice Creek transferring from Indiana
Replies: 26
5/9/2013 4:15:39 PM
GCLY89

RECRUIT: ALSTON THOMPSON
Replies: 0
5/9/2013 10:16:06 AM
BM

RECRUIT: TRE CAMPBELL
Replies: 18
5/9/2013 9:02:37 AM
BM

Davidson to the A-10
Replies: 20
5/9/2013 6:17:07 AM
gonzo

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/8/2013
Replies: 0
5/8/2013 10:52:06 PM
herve

Lonergan In Lithuania
Replies: 52
5/8/2013 5:16:27 PM
Don't Quote Me

Does the name Marcus Joseph ring a bell?
Replies: 6
5/8/2013 12:29:26 AM
GW0811

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/7/2013
Replies: 0
5/7/2013 10:51:27 PM
herve

Another recruit lost
Replies: 3
5/7/2013 6:38:50 PM
Florida Colonial

Where Winners Migrate?
Replies: 0
5/7/2013 2:42:20 PM
Dootie Bubble

Another recruit lost
Replies: 6
5/7/2013 1:44:12 PM
Florida Colonial

Taking all the fun and mystery out of Herve's other passion...
Replies: 7
5/7/2013 1:27:37 PM
FLA

D-league action
Replies: 4
5/7/2013 1:00:27 PM
The MV

Kevin Larsen's military service
Replies: 9
5/7/2013 8:41:37 AM
GW0811

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/6/2013
Replies: 0
5/6/2013 10:52:14 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MAURICE CREEK
Replies: 13
5/6/2013 5:27:58 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/5/2013
Replies: 0
5/5/2013 10:52:15 PM
herve

I. Am. So. Shocked.
Replies: 1
5/5/2013 7:40:58 PM
herve

Travon Landry
Replies: 1
5/5/2013 6:29:00 PM
Tennessee Colonial

RECRUIT: JJ EPPS
Replies: 4
5/5/2013 7:56:04 AM
BM

Tweet About Larsen
Replies: 1
5/5/2013 7:15:27 AM
CT Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/4/2013
Replies: 0
5/4/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JUSTIN EDWARDS
Replies: 9
5/4/2013 3:39:49 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/3/2013
Replies: 0
5/3/2013 10:52:01 PM
herve

Does Lonergan...???
Replies: 6
5/3/2013 7:58:13 PM
GDUB4

RECRUIT: JULIAN DEBOSE
Replies: 11
5/3/2013 5:49:47 PM
BM

Real Basketball Shit--BM's guard minute projections on a Creek signing and no others
Replies: 15
5/3/2013 2:11:40 PM
Tuna Can

RECRUIT: PAUL JORGENSEN
Replies: 9
5/3/2013 10:22:20 AM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/2/2013
Replies: 0
5/2/2013 10:51:33 PM
herve

gwhoops.com Digest - 5/1/2013
Replies: 0
5/1/2013 10:51:34 PM
herve

Eli Carter gets his release from Rutgers
Replies: 9
5/1/2013 8:06:29 PM
DEA

RECRUIT: GABE LEVIN
Replies: 74
5/1/2013 6:43:28 PM
BM

Transfer list
Replies: 16
5/1/2013 3:33:59 PM
BM

GW Med School (OT)
Replies: 3
5/1/2013 1:04:46 PM
NJ Colonial

ML should stop off in Russia and pick up a new assistant
Replies: 0
5/1/2013 12:39:40 PM
george the hippo hunter

RECRUIT: ROBERT CARTWRIGHT
Replies: 2
5/1/2013 8:57:38 AM
mike K

Mark Schlabach
Replies: 1
5/1/2013 3:45:17 AM
Dootie Bubble

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/30/2013
Replies: 0
4/30/2013 10:51:25 PM
herve

RECRUIT: CHANCELLOR BARNARD
Replies: 2
4/30/2013 9:15:30 AM
BM

RECRUIT: LENNARD FREEMAN
Replies: 40
4/30/2013 7:36:37 AM
Mike K

Ms. Traynor-In her Own Words
Replies: 17
4/30/2013 4:48:51 AM
ziik

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/29/2013
Replies: 0
4/29/2013 10:52:55 PM
herve

RECRUIT: BRADY ELLINGSON
Replies: 2
4/29/2013 8:22:36 PM
Florida Colonial

Roster for next season on 4/26 (this thread is actually about the NY Jets)
Replies: 25
4/29/2013 4:05:24 PM
GDub4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/28/2013
Replies: 0
4/28/2013 10:53:18 PM
herve

Men's Tennis Tied 3-3 in A-10 Finals
Replies: 2
4/28/2013 1:33:31 PM
the sons of liberty

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/27/2013
Replies: 0
4/27/2013 10:51:29 PM
herve

EYBL
Replies: 0
4/27/2013 11:29:07 AM
GW Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/26/2013
Replies: 0
4/26/2013 10:51:35 PM
herve

International Assistant Coach
Replies: 4
4/26/2013 8:16:22 PM
LA Fan

"George Mason president delivers new vision" (WaPo)
Replies: 1
4/26/2013 5:05:15 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MARQUIS WRIGHT
Replies: 35
4/26/2013 2:20:19 PM
BM

RECRUIT: MIGUEL CARTAGENA
Replies: 63
4/26/2013 11:23:07 AM
JamonRye

RECRUIT: LAVON LONG
Replies: 13
4/26/2013 10:20:35 AM
BM

Hope you are happy with your purchase Herve!
Replies: 1
4/26/2013 7:07:31 AM
GW Alum Abroad

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/25/2013
Replies: 0
4/25/2013 10:51:32 PM
herve

International Assistant Coach
Replies: 0
4/25/2013 3:07:12 PM
LA Fan

Jabari Hinds WVA
Replies: 2
4/25/2013 11:15:59 AM
DEA

Why did we honor David pellom as a graduating senior
Replies: 8
4/25/2013 9:35:01 AM
Neil

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/24/2013
Replies: 0
4/24/2013 10:51:27 PM
herve

RECRUIT: RASHARD KELLY
Replies: 8
4/24/2013 8:37:48 PM
Florida Colonial

Give mike the benefit. He is making close to president knapp. He will not f@@k it up like kh did.
Replies: 5
4/24/2013 8:14:18 PM
Neil

10-21
Replies: 7
4/24/2013 1:13:07 PM
What?

30 second shot clock?
Replies: 9
4/24/2013 9:26:56 AM
GW Fan

RECRUIT: ERIC CARTER
Replies: 0
4/24/2013 8:56:58 AM
BM

another 1 that got away-Mark Williams
Replies: 3
4/24/2013 5:09:44 AM
GDUB4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/23/2013
Replies: 0
4/23/2013 10:51:24 PM
herve

RECRUIT: SANDY COHEN
Replies: 0
4/23/2013 9:15:06 PM
Florida Colonial

Cap Classic Rosters
Replies: 4
4/23/2013 8:42:09 PM
BM

Dooley to Florida Gulf Coast
Replies: 37
4/23/2013 10:30:55 AM
Poog

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/22/2013
Replies: 0
4/22/2013 10:52:28 PM
herve

The Non Nigel Johnson thread
Replies: 12
4/22/2013 10:03:47 PM
Florida Colonial

Phil Hochberg
Replies: 9
4/22/2013 5:30:23 PM
BM

Gun Control(OT)
Replies: 59
4/22/2013 9:10:47 AM
Steven

GW Baseball vs Fordham
Replies: 3
4/21/2013 11:12:02 PM
the sons of liberty

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/21/2013
Replies: 0
4/21/2013 10:51:23 PM
herve

RECRUIT: EVAN TAYLOR
Replies: 1
4/21/2013 10:53:01 AM
Mike K

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/20/2013
Replies: 0
4/20/2013 10:53:46 PM
herve

Official NLI announcement
Replies: 22
4/20/2013 7:53:38 PM
BM

RECRUIT: ANDRE WALKER
Replies: 4
4/20/2013 8:23:06 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/19/2013
Replies: 0
4/19/2013 10:54:11 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JOSH HEARLIHY
Replies: 21
4/19/2013 6:27:49 PM
BM

RECRUIT: ASHLEY WILLIAMS
Replies: 6
4/19/2013 5:40:55 PM
BM

Davidson on the verge of joining A-10
Replies: 20
4/19/2013 11:46:08 AM
GCLY89

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/18/2013
Replies: 0
4/18/2013 10:55:01 PM
herve

How many scholarships are left to give out?
Replies: 15
4/18/2013 12:57:59 PM
NewGWFan

For You TT "Haters"
Replies: 8
4/18/2013 12:48:47 PM
ziik

RECRUIT: Jerome Seagars
Replies: 39
4/18/2013 12:33:21 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/17/2013
Replies: 0
4/17/2013 11:40:22 PM
herve

Sutton Submits Name for Vacant FL Gulf Coast Head Job
Replies: 29
4/17/2013 8:00:08 PM
herve

Quevyn Winters and 4 others leaving Duquesne
Replies: 4
4/17/2013 3:52:49 PM
Free Quebec

If it Quacks Like a Duck ... (OT)
Replies: 2
4/17/2013 12:43:38 PM
Eugene

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/16/2013
Replies: 0
4/16/2013 10:51:37 PM
herve

RECRUIT: MARK WILLIAMS
Replies: 16
4/16/2013 9:49:32 AM
CPots

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/15/2013
Replies: 0
4/15/2013 10:58:45 PM
herve

RECRUIT: ANTHONY PATE
Replies: 0
4/15/2013 9:48:29 AM
BM

Recruit coming this weekend
Replies: 57
4/15/2013 2:48:11 AM
DEA

GW Washington Post Story
Replies: 19
4/15/2013 2:42:54 AM
LA Fan

More of This!
Replies: 1
4/15/2013 1:01:30 AM
BM

welcome Davidson!
Replies: 0
4/15/2013 12:57:39 AM
NJ Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/14/2013
Replies: 0
4/14/2013 10:57:07 PM
herve

Rutgers
Replies: 8
4/14/2013 2:18:37 PM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/13/2013
Replies: 0
4/13/2013 10:53:00 PM
herve

A possible guard target/transfer
Replies: 3
4/13/2013 8:04:03 PM
Florida Colonial

Hopefully We Will Get Some Recruiting News From This.
Replies: 0
4/13/2013 11:32:48 AM
Mike K

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/12/2013
Replies: 0
4/12/2013 10:53:43 PM
herve

Stadium Journey review of the Smith Center
Replies: 10
4/12/2013 1:19:17 PM
Long Suffering Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/11/2013
Replies: 0
4/11/2013 10:53:47 PM
herve

Questions That Must Be Asked ...
Replies: 55
4/11/2013 10:22:20 AM
CBO

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/10/2013
Replies: 0
4/10/2013 10:55:52 PM
herve

Cross Jon Severe off the list
Replies: 2
4/10/2013 12:39:20 PM
GW21

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/9/2013
Replies: 0
4/9/2013 10:51:26 PM
herve

OT--Who Wins? Who Cares?
Replies: 7
4/9/2013 8:27:23 PM
ziik

coaching changes 2013
Replies: 0
4/9/2013 4:04:18 PM
GWSB '11

VCU pre-season #14
Replies: 2
4/9/2013 1:54:59 PM
herve

Play nice
Replies: 0
4/9/2013 11:54:08 AM
Old Prof

Who am I?
Replies: 8
4/9/2013 9:31:33 AM
Long Suffering Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/8/2013
Replies: 0
4/8/2013 10:55:27 PM
herve

Did you all know this?
Replies: 13
4/8/2013 6:37:07 PM
BACCAS92

Hobbs & Mid-Major Coaches
Replies: 7
4/8/2013 10:45:31 AM
Wax Daddy

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/7/2013
Replies: 0
4/7/2013 10:51:46 PM
herve

Maybe we will recruit JUCOs
Replies: 5
4/7/2013 11:52:56 AM
Florida Colonial

Nick Griffin Third Team All-Met
Replies: 13
4/7/2013 10:00:05 AM
Yinka dont Stinka

Honestly! I can't leave the country for one second without you guys messing everything up! nt
Replies: 3
4/7/2013 8:13:40 AM
herve

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/6/2013
Replies: 0
4/6/2013 10:51:09 PM
herve

Maybe we will recruit JUCOs
Replies: 0
4/6/2013 7:32:02 AM
Florida Colonial

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/5/2013
Replies: 0
4/5/2013 10:53:17 PM
herve

Here's a good upper: Garino interview
Replies: 5
4/5/2013 4:14:31 AM
BM

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/4/2013
Replies: 0
4/4/2013 10:51:09 PM
herve

Lonergan got what he wanted
Replies: 69
4/4/2013 10:34:12 PM
Knew this was coming

Lehman with the Save
Replies: 0
4/4/2013 10:07:15 PM
Poog

RECRUIT: THERENCE MAYIMBA
Replies: 5
4/4/2013 9:26:39 PM
CPots

Backup Point Guard
Replies: 29
4/4/2013 7:27:29 PM
bobo

Hoping the worst is behind us
Replies: 7
4/4/2013 2:56:07 PM
NewGWFan

Jamail JOnes
Replies: 4
4/4/2013 12:26:29 AM
DEA

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/3/2013
Replies: 0
4/3/2013 10:52:25 PM
herve

RECRUIT: JORDAN ABDURRAOOF
Replies: 9
4/3/2013 8:13:58 PM
Mike K

Random but infuriating
Replies: 9
4/3/2013 5:20:33 PM
Steven

Sounds weird but
Replies: 23
4/3/2013 4:43:11 PM
DEA

American University
Replies: 2
4/3/2013 3:20:41 PM
NewGWFan

Rutgers' fires their basketball coach
Replies: 2
4/3/2013 12:06:57 PM
neil

Some Good News Today [Baseball] PART II
Replies: 2
4/3/2013 9:55:35 AM
CJS Fan

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/2/2013
Replies: 0
4/2/2013 10:51:07 PM
herve

Lonergan friend headed to Siena
Replies: 5
4/2/2013 7:58:15 PM
Poog

Status heading into Spring Signing
Replies: 13
4/2/2013 11:10:08 AM
GDUB4

gwhoops.com Digest - 4/1/2013
Replies: 0
4/1/2013 10:51:46 PM
herve

scam or legit? (OT)
Replies: 2
4/1/2013 6:57:25 PM
GW Alum Abroad

Urban problems
Replies: 9
4/1/2013 6:07:11 PM
Dootie Bubble

gwhoops.com Digest - 3/31/2013
Replies: 0
3/31/2013 10:51:34 PM
herve

A hinderance to recruiting
Replies: 9
3/31/2013 9:33:44 PM
Steven

VCU
Replies: 1
3/31/2013 9:01:02 PM
SMF

RECRUIT: LUKE WORTHINGTON

INFO Position: power forward
Height: 6-8
Weight: 240
Recruit Class Year:
Commitment: medium
School: Homestead
Location: Mequon RECRUIT: LUKE WORTHINGTON
7/25/2012 9:03:39 AM
Poster: BM

32 offers including GW.  Working the Wisconsin connection.

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7/25/2012 10:04:12 AM
Poster: newtman

thanks for the post. article says Luke is a Mormon so some believe BYU could be best fit.

8/20/2012 9:24:50 AM
Poster: BM

Cuts list down to Princeton, Penn, Butler, BYU and Davidson.

9/3/2012 7:25:37 PM
Poster: BM

BYU

9/4/2012 6:54:33 AM
Poster: Keith Greene

Jesus Christ!  Oops, sorry.

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