colonial772/10/2018 6:46:22 PM
Rock bottom, last place, with zero road wins, and a point differential of -6. I have never seen it this bad. I'm at a loss for words.
la fan2/10/2018 7:51:01 PM
Just picture the situation next year with no Yuta. The horror.
chet2/10/2018 7:58:11 PM
Clearly, 77, you're not at a loss for words. And, why ask if anybody cares? Most fans, here, there, most anywhere, are front runners. Bandwagon types.
Yuta? He's one of the best GD players I ever have seen as a Colonial. Multi=skilled, and a totally tuned athlete. It's unfortunate he was not compelled to use his off-hand more, and develop it fully. ML was deficient in that regard. He ought to have used Press Maravich's instructional techniques.
hatchet man2/10/2018 8:30:45 PM
We're you around in 1988-89? Because, yeah, that was worse.
gw alum abroad2/10/2018 8:45:01 PM
Ah, but Hatchet Man in 88-89 you COULD say "the kids played hard" 😈
It has been worse, but we'd all like it to be better.
colonial772/10/2018 10:30:46 PM
Hatchet Man, I've been around since 1972, and no sorry I don't remember every single season since then.
But this is as bad and as disappointed I have been in recent memory.
colonial772/10/2018 10:34:21 PM
Chet, I'll speak for myself if you don't mind. I am at a loss for words to explain what I've been watching.
chet2/10/2018 10:38:58 PM
It's ML's fault we suck. Didn't teach Yuta to use his left hand. Didn't teach Mojo how to coach. Caused Nero to be fired for spilling the beans on a guy who was just trying to find love in all the wrong places. And it will be his fault next year when we are trying to win with a bunch of 2 stars who turned down MD and ND to play for GW.
gw future2/10/2018 10:44:08 PM
Judging from Home attendance vs. LaSalle the answer is No except for a few die hards. There couldn’t have been 50 students.
the real dude2/10/2018 10:59:35 PM
Colonial77 I'm afraid the answer is NO.
gw05092/11/2018 9:21:58 AM
I wouldn't go off student support. Students haven't given a shit for about 10 years.
skittles2/11/2018 9:24:22 AM
LOL Chet. Loving the sarcasm. But yeah if anyone was looking forward to 5 years of Mojo and those who wanted to back that AD....this is your wish. Enjoy it. Own it. Love it. We will see it only decline from here. And this is rock bottom. God.
outside observer2/11/2018 9:32:01 AM
Biggest quitters are the ones who always quit first, before they unquit, before they complain and quit again -- GW's small entitled fan base.
mlnlaw2/11/2018 9:33:41 AM
I haven't watched but following the box scores it has not looked good.
I had concerns about giving the new coach an extension.
Especially after the 2 bigs transferred at the end of last year.
But GW wanted the post-ML pain to end and just gave it to him.
A longer look may have found a better result.
We had a shot to build off what we had done - multi 20 win seasons.
Maybe we spend more money to get a proven coach at our mid-major level.
At the moment, the future does not look real bright.
Very disappointing since we got a glimpse of consistency with the 20 win seasons.
PS - Yuta could dribble with both hands and both feet and we still would be bad.
newgwfan2/11/2018 9:35:55 AM
Chet couldn't be further off base. It's almost not even worth discussing at this point. It's becoming crystal clear what anyone who has any knowledge of the game of basketball knew would happen when you hire such an inexperienced young coach and put them in a position where they are over their head in the A10.
It doesn't have anything to do with ML. Everything to do with Mojo and the powers that be that put him in this position.
chet2/11/2018 9:43:16 AM
Post at 10:38 is not mine. SOS.
chet2/11/2018 10:27:36 AM
Try to make your pronouns agree when you write complex sentences. Make believe, at least, you are a college grad.
The issue isn't, is this coach inexperienced. The issue(s) are: What sort of commitment did GW make to this coach?; and, How long will GW give him to grow into the job?
GW had obligations to protect its students and its staff from the abusive coach, and the school met its obligations by canning the guy, when he would not adjust his performance.
GW has an obligation to support its current coach, until he can grow into the job and meet the school's performance parameters, or until he shows he cannot grow into the job.
GW had a contrct with Lonergan, which it fulfilled. GW has a contract with Mojo, too, which it will fulfill.
No matter how this experiment turns out, GW, so far, has acted reasonably.
Rock bottom? You have no fucking idea what that is.
long suffering fan2/11/2018 11:43:46 AM
The lack of discussion of the game itself speaks volumes.
bigfan2/11/2018 11:45:27 AM
Yes, Mojo's not the upstanding man, Mojo's revisionist mentor and patron saint Tom Izzo is.
Except we don't hear about the Izzo legacy and coaching tree anymore. Announcer in a reent game was about to start in on it, but caught himself.
Wonder who the next "mentor" will be?
skittles2/11/2018 11:51:20 AM
You can keep saying this had to do with his performance (lmao he just won the NIT) or abusing players that have consistently stood up for him on social media (names and all). But did you know Catholic honored his 2001 champ team last weekend? those players are in a bunch of photos posted with him. guess they didnt feel too abused...and abusive behavior like that which the post article and anonymous sources have suggested would have been present back then too. Why don't I drop this? Cause it doesnt make any sense.
skittles2/11/2018 11:55:46 AM
And I like Mojo. Want nothing but the best for him. But they placed him in a situation to do nothing but fail. They lost great players last year that they needed and it shows. Tyler willed them to 20 wins last year. This has nothing to do with Mojo, if he was allowed to enter this position (even outside of GW) naturally he would likely succeed. Its everything to do with the powers that be in GW. Backed the wrong people multiple times. Handled things terribly. And now we all suffer.
long suffering fan2/11/2018 11:59:28 AM
Trying to put a more positive spin on the future...Mojo is still growing into the job. (That doesn't mean I agreed with his hiring, because I did not). I believe that he is a better coach this season than last year. When a program such as GWs sinks to the depths that it now has, it may help in recruiting, as quality recruits can almost certainly be promised immediate playing time (a la the Garino/McDonald/Savage/Larsen class). The key for us is that the administration be committed to the program. So long as it does, we have always built ourselves back up, as we did after the Gimmelstob years, the Penders years and Hobbs years. I generally do not put much stock in what Maine Colonial has to say, not because I don't think he is a good guy (I think he is) but rather I think he more than anyone is the voice of tha administration, and his post on another thread that the Leblanc's attendance at the games, stated commitment to the program and that he is considering all options probably more than anything has given me hope for the future. Many of us knew this season would not go well. (If you recall, I predicted that we would win less than 10 games, so we already exceeded my expectations. :) Although coaching maybe part of the problem, it was moreso an issue of this year being a patchwork team, slapped together from spare parts, and really had no shot. So, lets continue to support the team while we hope that next year begins the climb back to respectability, be it with Mojo or with an entire new coaching staff.
long suffering fan2/11/2018 12:00:29 PM
Correction...in rebuilding back up, I meant to say after the Kuester years, not the Gimmelstob years.
rich maier2/11/2018 1:09:53 PM
When did the Colonials program take a sharp turn for the worse? Thought it was lonergan's firing which precipated the transfers. Resulting in a very thin roster.
the mv2/11/2018 1:19:39 PM
I care plenty. What a shame this program did what it did without letting its followers understand more about why certain decisions were reached. Like why the conference co-athletic director of the year abruptly “resigned” in the middle of a school year? Maybe we would all have greater patience and tolerance towards our current struggles if we knew all there was to know about this situation.
gw692/11/2018 1:59:35 PM
Im dissapointed like all of you--but I support LSF's sage postings
on this thread.
chet2/11/2018 2:01:15 PM
Whine, whine, whine.
You want answers? Call or write to your favorite coach or administrator. Tell him how very much you care, and how very much you want to know.
Postage still is cheap, at $0.50.
I asked, and was answered. Be polite.
the mv2/11/2018 2:22:55 PM
Damn right. People who made the decision to terminate NL’s contract are today nowhere to be found on campus, and I get to whine about it. From a perennial NCAA contender to 14th place in a 14 team conference. Whining strikes me as the most logical reaction given these circumstances.
chet2/11/2018 2:31:09 PM
$0.50, Mr. Cheapskates. Write a letter, place a call, or just shut up. Whining is the most illogical thing for an adult male to do, but, have at it.
ML got canned on his return from Japan for the reasons posted. Nero's authority and legitimacy were totally in ruins after ML burned his ass. Who wants a job where he gets asked 24/7 about his sexuality?
neil2/11/2018 4:48:43 PM
nobodt cares. Last place
fire the staff
skittles2/11/2018 5:04:05 PM
Yup the AD quits mysteriously and without clear reasoning mid basketball season because people found out he was gay. You must have all the answers Chet and lemme guess you only asked one person what happened with that 50 cents?
neil2/11/2018 5:10:54 PM
PN gone. No leadership. This team in last place is going no place with terrible seats for their few fans for the great tournament in Washington, D.C.
i bet GW is not renting a room at the stadium for alumi, like in NY
This is just a last place team that sucks
the mv2/11/2018 5:14:29 PM
Skittles, Chet is a no-nothing entity who thinks he has all of the answers but who actually has none of them. Treating all of his posts, and those of his current and future aliases, with this basic fact in mind is highly advisable.
neil2/11/2018 5:29:55 PM
last place .. the record.. are you happy.. plan on going to the tournament in Dc. Expect last place seats that suck
chet2/11/2018 8:17:43 PM
Keep talking to me Skittles - it's kind of nice - everyone else has been ignoring me for some reason.
rich maier2/11/2018 8:41:14 PM
Skittles crawl out from under the rock you live under. Was it 5-6 players who went to the Post with complaints against lonergan? Just because someone was nice to 12 of 13 players doesn't mean he gets a pass for (alleged) harrassment of that one player. Or don't you understand that? And you know for a fact Nero because he was outed. You must be a Trump supporter.
gw future2/11/2018 9:20:31 PM
Hey Dick and I do mean Dick, Rich, because your posts are almost always dickheadish. First of all bringing Trump into this is a complete distraction from the fact that Nero and Maltzman fucked this whole thing up and we’ll be paying for this for years. Two very incompetent individuals were handed the keys to the car and they wrapped it around a tree. I put a lot of this on Knapp who was apparently asleep at the switch and allowed this all to occur. I feel very bad for Mojo he was set-up to fail. Maybe he can rise above it but what these incompetents did to this young man is shameful. It will all come out one day. And some will need to change their screen names again lol out of shame.
skittles2/11/2018 11:36:09 PM
Hahaha. So I’m a Trump supporter now for calling bullshit on anonymous players (and best believe I know exactly who they are and if you actually did too you’d laugh out loud at how dumb you sound believing them) making unfounded AND NEVER ONCE PROVEN allegations. Right. There was no abuse. And the man you backed was no victim here.
dc native2/11/2018 11:47:42 PM
I’m convinced that Mojo will be a succesful recruiter and coach. I just hope GW is patient enough to let him be succesful here instead of firing him so he has to be successful elsewhere.
maypoman2/12/2018 12:23:52 AM
What was the head coach selection committee thinking? First they hire a young assistant coach with no head coaching experience as an interim head coach. What does that say about the future of the program? It says to me that we're no longer committed to a solid, successful mens basketball program but, instead, we're "rebuilding" for the umpteenth time. There were plenty of head coaches out there just looking to step up to the A10 but we weren't going that route. My guess is that Mojo was there and would accept a one-year trial (and why he was selected over the other more experienced assistants no one knows). Then this "selection committee," gives Mojo a 5-year extension based on one admittedly successful year with a team that had an NBA caliber player (Tyler Cavanaugh) who literally carried the team on his back and experienced guards. That cupboard was and is now bare! They knew Mojo hadn't really been tested but that didn't deter the powers that be. Why? My guess is that the price was right for GW, ie, the school is always looking to save money on the head coach, assistants, etc., etc., etc. Now don't get me wrong-- Mojo is a class act. It is the school and the athletic department that chose to put him in a job he was obviously unprepared for so it's hard to really blame him (although it is disappointing that the team is regressing). But, as discussed, there is plenty of other blame to spread around! I've been following GW mens basketball for over 50 years and I can safely say that this current mess is unfortunately, with too few exceptions, par for the course!
dcabloob2/12/2018 7:12:00 AM
The GW athletic website often has feature stories now in lieu of game preview articles. It didn't tell anyone which D.C. TV station this past game would be on so I had to do it. GW hasn't had the full season of games on radio anymore, not even internet radio. There haven't been any GW game calls of nationally televised road games. Aside from those things, great promotion.
dominic2/12/2018 7:16:25 AM
Plus, books cost too much, and life sucks.
alumnus2/12/2018 10:55:16 AM
Nobody's firing MoJo during this season, if only for the fact that with a few games left, what would be the point of additional chaos? I was at the Mason and Duquesne games. The players were competing. They haven't given up. We just don't have the firepower.
As to next season, although I don't think MoJo's coaching is as bad as a lot of people do, I don't think there's anything wrong with replacing him next season. Contracts are terminated all the time. Even if we lose out, he goes out with what will be a respectable two-year record for a very young coach who took over a team after a sports disaster (as opposed to things like hurricances, which are actually a lot more serious, although you'd never know it from the incessant tooth-gnashing and feces-throwing on this board). I doubt it'll hurt his future. My guess is that plenty of lower-level programs (what's wrong with D-II or D-III, Lonergan started in one of them) would try him as their head coach, or he could get a pretty good job as a higher-level assistant at this or a comparable level. Once the dust settles from GW, I would guess the experience he's had will only help him as a coach. If GW's lacking in money, try renting out space in one of the zillion-dollar properties they own. I have to believe, for example, that the Loudoun campus is a goldmine compared to what they paid for the land back whenever. Or mortgage a few inches of the Foxhall Road property. Geez. If they can't come up with some cash to buy him out and pay for a more experienced head coach, then the people who should be investigated aren't in the athletic department, they're in "finance."
the mv2/12/2018 11:48:06 AM
Maypoman, par for the course might be a bit misleading. Let's go back three decades or so.
Bob Tallent was a legendary figure in GW basketball circles. Bob's teams were up and down but I think there was a sense that it was time for a change after his last campaign which I believe was a single digit win total for GW. Gerry Gimelstob arrived with great fanfare, a young coach who was touted as Bobby Knight's clone in certain respects. Gerry recruited decently (led by Mike Brown) but when he saw that his GW players just weren't the same caliber of his former Indiana and Utah players, he just couldn't understand it and lacked the temperment to properly deal with it. A very bad incident during the season more or less sealed his fate, and he subsequently resigned after said season. John Kuester went on to have a respectable career coaching in the NBA, but as ide from a few mediocre seasons, he will long be remembered for 1-27, the season that the roof caved in. Max Blank couldn't play and the injuries piled up from there. Next came Mike Jarvis who had received more fame as Patrick Ewing's high school coach than he had during his respectable tenure coaching Boston University. Jarvis was the one GW head coach who truly left as a success story even if some at Foggy Bottom were bitter about all of the other coaching overtures he was not shy about making. When Penders left after three seasons, it was clearly time due to his health, the program's on-court decline, and shit that took place off of the court (Atilla, Val not going to class, phone card scandal). Karl Hobbs came from the Jarvis tree (Mike coached him in high school too) and to be sure, KH had a period of unprecedented success. In the end, recruiting rules had changed and KH played the role of defeatest a little too long. He had shown signs of life during his final two seasons but by then, it had amounted to four straight seasons of underwhelming performances. Lonergan was shown the door after winning the NIT so we can safely say for reasons that had nothing to do with on-court performance.
This was a long way of saying that this one feels very different (the opposite of par for the course). I will say that both GW Future and Skittles have indicated, rather definitively, that there is more to this whole sordid affair than what has been reported. Future alludes to the fact that this is going to come out but gives no time table as to when. Many here are very interested in what both of these posters have to say but the more time that goes by without hearing more, the more suspicious I am getting. Since I know that you can't share what you claim to know here at this time (or you presumably would have), let me ask this...what has to happen, what has to change, before you will be able to share your knowledge of additional or all details regarding exactly what happened that caused us to reach the point we are at? Coach is gone, AD is gone. Settlement has been reached presumably with gag orders concerning the involved parties. So, will there ever come a time when we will learn what you know? If so, why not now? What has to take place or change before you can share your thoughts?
free quebec2/12/2018 12:38:51 PM
When people say they feel bad for MoJo, I disagree. Even if he was let go after this year (which he won't be, because GW), he would be MUCH further ahead in his career than he would be had he remained the 3rd assistant or even moved up to #2 assistant during these two years. He can get a lower-level head job at a lower tier D1 school, or almost any D2 or 3 job he wants, or (probably best for his development long term), I'l bet he could go be the #1 assistant at a lot of good programs right away.
He's going to be a succesful head coach eventually, and this experience will have accellerated his career by at least 5 years, probably more. So when he leaves after next year, he'll have advanced his career significantly and will put him position to succeed when he is ready to capitalize on his next great opportunity.
rich maier2/12/2018 12:48:29 PM
Skittles, listen asshole I posted a pic of my GW diploma to show people like you and MV will stop the bullshit. It must be mighty dark up ML's ass. I never backed anyone. See GW69 for your delusions.
dom2/12/2018 12:55:31 PM
Rich, Skittles lives in Mail Van's closet, along with a whole cast of imaginary friends. To paraphrase the old outfielder, ain't no need to worry about it.
rich maier2/12/2018 6:25:45 PM
Why won't anyone believe I posted a picture of my GW diploma? Why couldn't anyone see it? Herve? I really did send it.
I will do it again just to shut up all you non-believers. I will post it on this blog by midnight tonight. If it doesn't work this time, I will give you all the number to the Gardner Webb's registrar's office to confirm I am really a college graduate whose real name is really Rich Maier.
neil2/12/2018 7:14:21 PM
Does anyone care. I guess not as no students and ticket holders show up.
look forward to the tournament. No
skittles2/12/2018 11:18:35 PM
When the hell did I ask you for your degree Rich? Please let me know. And yes you’re arguments are very one sided leading me to infer that you are indeed backing a side sir.
skittles2/12/2018 11:19:37 PM
And I have no idea who MV is nor do I give a single solitary crap. I speak for myself you can send your conspiracy theories to the Bermuda Triangle buddy.
bobo2/13/2018 8:59:55 AM
In fairness, FQ, we don't know if MoJo will ever be a successful head coach. He's never been a head coach at any point in his career and he's not doing a very good job at GW. He may become a successful head coach somewhere down the line but that's purely speculation at this point. Not all basketball young basketball coaches become successful head coaches. But I do agree the 2 or 3 years he has at GW will be a good learning experience for him and aid in his development for whatever school he ends up with in the future.
neil2/13/2018 9:46:06 PM
Hi GW is as interesting as the terrible section they receive as the last place team in th Atlantic 10.
Raise low GW
neil2/14/2018 10:38:01 PM
Any word on the section GW will be in for the tournament
rich maier2/15/2018 1:05:26 AM
Did anyone see the copy of my GW transcript I posted again? My computer seems to be having problems. Guess you will have to take my word for it!