By: Colonial'13 (94 posts) - 2/10/2016 11:25:58 AM

This is hillarious - Coach got kicked out of his daughters JV game last night. Link : http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/02/10/lonergan-kicked-out/

By: alum1 (754 posts) - 2/10/2016 11:33:00 AM

Just awesome......

By: kdb sand diego (62 posts) - 2/10/2016 11:39:13 AM

who cares, let's just win tonight

By: Colonial'13 (94 posts) - 2/10/2016 11:47:52 AM

Um ok..

By: Mentzinger (3,646 posts) - 2/10/2016 11:54:41 AM

LOVE IT!! #Family

By: The Sons of Liberty (322 posts) - 2/10/2016 12:10:10 PM

Excellent.

By: BC (1,645 posts) - 2/10/2016 12:11:45 PM

Now a reason to hate on the off court refs!

By: NewGWFan (510 posts) - 2/10/2016 12:12:45 PM

Such a dad move.  This is awesome.  Hope his daughter doesn't kill him!

By: GW Alum Abroad (2,456 posts) - 2/10/2016 12:16:23 PM

On the other hand, that 7th grader probably felt bad enough without having this go out over the airwaves and internet...

Still, good to know the coach CAN count to five 😲

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/10/2016 12:19:53 PM

7th grader? ES is a high school. Hilarious write up! 

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 2/10/2016 1:25:31 PM

I think it's odd that people think this a funny story that puts ML in a good light. I don't think it's the crime of the century but I do think that it's unseemly when parents inject themselves into their kids' sporting events such that they're thrown out of the event by the police.

By: IM4GWU (17 posts) - 2/10/2016 2:01:41 PM

I am in 100% agreement with thinker. Well stated.

By: Rich Maier (17 posts) - 2/10/2016 2:02:53 PM

+1 thinker   hope parents of recruits didn't read that

By: GWStag (84 posts) - 2/10/2016 2:13:58 PM

He was not kicked out of the gym.  He quietly went to the table during a timeout.  The security guard came over to talk to ML after he sat back down to see what the problem was.  He was just checking on number of fouls with the St Johns book and the young lady from St Johns had his daughter with 4.  Some man at table started getting loud with ML and tried to make a scene but ML laughed at him and went and sat down.  I was there.  He was joking around about it on the Sports Junkies because they brought it up.  ML watched the game with the security guard he knew in the doorway.  This story has been exaggerated.  It is funny.  He felt bad that his daughter was crying and wanted to know if she really had 5 fouls.  He is a father too.    

By: Boston Colonial (330 posts) - 2/10/2016 2:22:59 PM

Having kept the scorebook at freshman high school games, it is unusual to have a parent come up and question the table.  But this is NOT a big deal  at all!

By: Colonial'13 (94 posts) - 2/10/2016 2:35:39 PM

You guys are way too uptight, if you listen to ML tell the story on Sports Junkies you'd realize its exactly how GWstag describes and is quite funny. I think its odd that people here would take this so seriously. Its also odd that people hope that GW parents and recruits don't read/listen to a humorous article about our coach, but at the same time take no exception to bashing the current team and coaches on a public forum.

By: Bo Knows (705 posts) - 2/10/2016 2:36:30 PM

My source at St. John's says this is much ado about nothing. There was no scene and ML never raised his voice, cursed or said anything inappropriate. My source says that the person who got ML tossed thought ML was trying to influence a student to change the scorebook and misunderstood his intentions/actions completely and overreacted. It will be yesterday's news by 7 pm tonight.

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 2/10/2016 6:31:50 PM

His own interview says that he was asked to leave by a policeman that he knew. I'm not saying it's a big deal or that it was some big scene but I don't think it's funny either and I don't think it reflects well on ML. If an adult is asking you to leave because they think you are pressuring a student scorekeeper then they should ask you to leave. Nowadays parents are so over the top on these kinds of things schools have to have more of a zero tolerance attitude. These events are about the kids not the parents.

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 2/10/2016 6:33:12 PM

BTW I just saw a story on this on Comcast SportsNet in the GW pregame for St. Joes. It doesn't reflect well.

By: Bigfan (2,829 posts) - 2/11/2016 12:14:16 AM

Wish this were our biggest cause of concerned discussion.

By: SW (189 posts) - 2/11/2016 7:44:28 AM

I think the real news in this story is ML's daughter is crying because she (mistakenly) fouled out of a game with only four fouls instead of five. She's 15 or 16! What a baby. I don't want to imagine what will happen when her first real boyfriend dumps her.

By: SW (189 posts) - 2/11/2016 7:46:37 AM

I like ML but as a former official ML needs to keep his mouth shut and stay in his seat. This is a JV basketball game, he should be treating it like a learning experience for his daughter. He has no business approaching the scoring table to question if they have the right number of fouls for his daughter or not.

 

He should know better.

By: Chester Would (166 posts) - 2/11/2016 7:58:07 AM

At least his daughter is willing to commit fouls. I bet she kept some of those girls from going right to the basket.

By: Free Quebec (2/11/2016 8:27:49 AM)

SW, you obviously don't have kids.  You should show more class than to rag on a young girl on a message board for showing emotion.   The Internets really do bring out the worst in people. 

By: Rich Maier (17 posts) - 2/11/2016 8:48:09 AM

ML says 'some middle aged loser at the scorer's table......'Was he talking about himself? His sideline antics spilled over and they didn't take his BS. We did get coverage on MSN. Nice going Lonergan. Really classy.

By: SW (189 posts) - 2/11/2016 8:50:17 AM

Sorry if I'm skeptical if a 15 or 16 y/o girl crying because she fouled out one foul short.

By: Jimmie83 (10 posts) - 2/11/2016 8:51:54 AM

Heck, I don't know what all the fuss is about everyone know St. John's of UnderArmour cheats!

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 8:52:52 AM

SW, you should stop typing, your ignorance is showing :)

By: Rich Maier (17 posts) - 2/11/2016 8:56:24 AM

Skittles, it's a message board he says what he wants. You should be worrying about ML's lack of class.

 

By: jr22 (119 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:03:02 AM

He really showed it to that "middle aged loser" who had the audacity to not be a D-1 college basketball coach.  Good guy

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:03:48 AM

And honestly this entire story should never have been a story and was blown way out of proportion based on my sources and other posts I've seen. Let's keep the coach's family out of this, as I'm sure one of them is bound to come across this board and instead of talking about GW basketball like this board was created for you are taking shots at ML's teenage daughter and contemplating appropriate high school girl behavior. Now let's discuss our upcoming game vs. the Bonnies!

By: bobo (3,178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:11:17 AM

My kids have played against the Lonergan boys in sports.  They (including Mrs) can be pretty tough on the refs.

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:12:48 AM

No Rich, that lack of class is shown everytime one of you "keyboard warriors" gets on this board after a loss with nothing intelligent or necessary coming out of your mouths. Its a loss, deal with it, some teams have tripple the amount we do. It happens. take the punches and move on to the next game like the team already has. Instead we are on here discussing a non-story and hinting at ML being a "middle aged loser". you guys would make me laugh if your lack of school spirit and solidarity behind the team you are supposedly fans of didnt make me throw up in my mouth first.

By: Rich Maier (17 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:13:29 AM

Skittles, what your source says makes no difference. The story is out on national news. WaPo it's too late. Too late for you and Bo  BTW how many other parents got kicked out of the game?

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:14:55 AM

And to clarify I am talking about posters like SW and Rich above, I have no problems with the majority of and am even friends with several of the posters on here and you guys are not who i am refering to.

By: jr22 (119 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:15:52 AM

not calling ML a middle aged loser.  that was his way of describing the guy who called him out

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:17:47 AM

Rich, and if you look up at the sky right now I'm sure you would say the sky is falling. Please, this is a story that will die before next week, you are literally crying over spilled milk. Now THAT is crying that is cause for concern.

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:18:41 AM

was not referring to you JR, reread Rich's post above.

By: Rich Maier (17 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:27:56 AM

Skittles, Why do you defend ML when he obviously screwed up and got GW some unwelcomed publicity? Bo is that you?

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:38:45 AM

Because you are blowing it out of proportion like many of the articles are. And no, I only go by Skittles on here Rich.

By: Bo Knows (705 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:40:36 AM

Sorry Rich to disappoint but I'm not Skittles. I love how people who weren't there seem to know what happened and of course, then go to on to all the larger implications based on their assumptions. And of course, there can only be one poster here that would defend ML in this situation. I actually spoke to someone who WAS THERE (a St. John's parent) and doesn't even know ML other than he is the GW coach. As I reported yesterday it was much ado about nothing. But feel free to spin away. I've never been able to stop you before from wild factless speculation so wouldn't expect to start now. Carry on.

By: Hugh Jaynus (5 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:42:14 AM

Obviously none of you have kids.  Can you blame him for being a father and sticking up for his daughter? How fair is that to her? I don't understand why the St. Johns scorekeeper didn't do her job and say she only had 4. I'm sure ML wasn't trying to show anyone up, he was probably just trying to stick up for his daughter who was unfairly getting kicked out of the game. 

Y'all on this board are ruthless . Take your postgame saltiness somewhere else besides the guys family.  ML was laughing about it telling the story on the radio, can't be too big of a deal. Get over yourselves.

By: Skittles (178 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:48:08 AM

+1 Bo and Hugh

By: lowpost (314 posts) - 2/11/2016 10:27:23 AM

what nobody has asked is why ml went to the scorer's table -- why not go to one of his daughter's coaches and ask them what their tally was.  every team i played had some sort of asst who kept track of their fouls.  

By: Bo Knows (705 posts) - 2/11/2016 10:48:07 AM

lowpost - this is jv girls basketball. I have no idea how many coaches that team has but I doubt it is many and it doesn't matter what they had it only matters what the oficial scorebook says. And if you don't frequent high school games, you don't realize how many times the scorebook is wrong, there is controvery over the score/time etc. Almost every game I go to at some point there is some sort of an issue.

And just for the record, I have been to games where ML's son is playing (Spalding/AAU) and I have never ever heard him say anything. And occasionally I've been sitting next to or very near him. He is acutely aware that as a college coach he is like the elephant in the room and anything he says or does is going to be looked at through that prism. I can tell you he is definitely not THAT parent.

This whole thing is so ridiculous. But I guess this is the world of gwhoops where this stuff gets bootstrapped into an opportunity to take a shot at ML.

 

By: Chet (52 posts) - 2/11/2016 10:49:00 AM

Good question low post, but in my experience most of the highschool bookkeepers do not sit on the bench, they sit at the scores table, one from each team.  In this situation probably there was probably a "young girl" from one team, and a "middle aged loser" keeping the books for both teams.  You usually have one person from each team so that if there is a question, or a mistake, which obviously happened here, they can compare books.  The young girl said she had ML's daughter with 4 fouls, but was most likely too shy to say anything to the grown man next to her who obviously was either in a bad mood or had a quick temper.  So when ML went up to see if both bookkeepers had his daughter with 5 fouls, the man thought he was trying to get the girl to change what she had.  This misunderstanding turned into an argument probably because the man thought he was being shown up by a guy with the audacity to walk up to the table decked out in all nike (GW) gear to check the stats.  I can assume this from him sarcastically asking ML who he was, and his response of "I'm nobody."  From what I understand he watched some of the game from the doorway before leaving, since his daughter was fouled out.  Whatever 'bad press' comes from this is making a story out of nothing.  If ML does not come out to say anything about this it is obviously not a big deal and it does not bother him.

By: Neil (314 posts) - 2/11/2016 2:51:28 PM

ML and the professor who was thrown out of the Dayton game several years ago should share their stories.

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 2/11/2016 3:05:42 PM

For myself, I'm not looking to bootstrap anything. I think ML has been an EXCELLENT coach for GW. Do I like or agree with everything he does/says? Of course not.

But this is not a GWHoops issue. It's been covered in the Post, on radio and a broadcast story on CSN was aired numerous time like on a loop pregame with St. Joes. This is not a scandal of any sort but it isn't contrived by GWHoops posters either.

I think posters shouldn't reflectively look for every avenue to criticize ML but other posters shouldn't reflectively defend him - particularly when he is in error (albeit a very small error).

As ML's "celebrity" increases he may want to adjust the degree of care he exercises. His wife giving the travelling sign from the stands after the ref asked ML to stop doing it is another thing that's no big deal -- just not really a smart thing to do.

By: Colonial'13 (94 posts) - 2/11/2016 3:11:32 PM

Only at GW will you get people, like Rich, all butt-hurt about our basketball coach getting kicked out of his daughters game. The only reason the media has the story in the first place is because he told it himself on the radio.

By: Tennessee Colonial (1,179 posts) - 2/11/2016 3:24:10 PM

A big ZZZZZZZZZ!! for this thread. Now about the basketbal team.

By: Bigfan (2,829 posts) - 2/11/2016 6:28:08 PM

In matters of family, I relentlessly defend the coach. Think the problem here is that he discussed it on this Junkies show, which is loose and provocative, but has been good to us.

ML has a wonderful family and is a family-oriented man. Mrs. Lonergan has the sharp eye, skills and acumen of a coach. She is a wonderful representative of the GW family.  The Lonergan family, from 80 plus year-old dad to the baby, now a toddler, are always at our games and giving their all.

The teenagers may wish at times that they were elsewhere, but comport themselves with manners and dignity and support the family. ML's family is a wonderful addition to our program and a bonus for hiring him. Remember, those positive stories about the family we have seen.

Bless the Lonergans. They are a treasure for us and sure as heck are a million times more important than any basketball game or Internet article.

Even I, a huge supporter of free speech here, say let's not go there if we are going to say anything about the family members, except to thank them, be amused by the little ones or grateful for their presence.

Feel free to comment about the coach and GW and publicity. Fire away, if you want, though this thread is getting tiresome and unproductive. He's a grown man in a highly-paid and profile position.

But say nothing negative, ever, about the coach's wife, daughter or kids. A great family. And way, way, way off limits.

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 2/11/2016 7:27:08 PM

Bigfan,

The mention of Mrs. Lonergan making the travelling signal after the refs asked ML to stop was in the media. She's a public figure of sorts acting in the public in a televised game. She knows that the tv people know who she is because they show her and the kids on tv most games where they are present. She's absolutely entitled to do that or bait the refs or whatever she wants. Does that make her into something bad? No. But have you heard of other DI coaches' spouses getting into it with refs during games? Has anyone heard of or seen that before? I haven't. Is it a horrible thing? No. Should it be off limits to us here? Not if it's mentioned in the media first. It just isn't really what you want your coach's wife to be doing. 

By: bobo (3,178 posts) - 2/11/2016 7:38:16 PM

My boys play a bunch of sports and I've seen Mrs L on the sidelines there too.  Very nice person but is not at all afraid of letting a ref know her feelings about a call (or lack there of) there as well.

By: Poog (3,875 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:05:35 PM

So we just want Maggie baking brownies for  the team, Thinker? This whole thread has been a ridiculous example of the nonsensical exchanges that take place here. Now you're going to tell the coach's wife (a former coach herself) what is acceptable conduct because that's how you want her to behave? Thought it was bad enough when everyone was telling anyone posting here what could and could not be discussed or said here. Since when did we start fretting that refs were named Bugs Bunny & Roger Rabbit?

By: thinker (2,825 posts) - 2/11/2016 9:27:51 PM

Poog,

It's true I don't want the ML's wife yelling at refs during games. Name another DI coach whose wife comes to games and yells at refs. Do you like the look? What would we be saying if it was Mrs. Martelli or Mrs. Mooney or Mrs. Miller doing that? 

Again, it isn't a huge deal but she shouldn't be doing that. Do we really want to be in a situation in a tight game where the ref tells ML to tell his wife to sit down and shut up? I don't want the AD doing it, I don't want Smith Center staff doing it; I don't want ML's wife doing it. Do you?

By: Poog (3,875 posts) - 2/11/2016 10:09:32 PM

What if the ref tells LSF or Free Quebec or Bigfan to sit down? Is that what you want to sanction? If Mrs. L or any other fan crosses a line in what they say or do then by all means they should be warned to knock it off. Yelling 3 seconds or giving the traveling sign is hardly up there with high crimes and misdemeanors. Mike is on the court and an official part of the game - he can properly be sanctioned for his conduct. His family? Nonsense.  

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