ROLAND, GOSS AND MARFO DESTINATIONS
the dude
 4/24/2017 6:07:41 AM      Replies: 111

the dude4/16/2017 12:33:32 AM

Thoughts on where JR, Goss and Marfo land?

If you had to pick a conference or school for each, you would anticipate where?

 

mentzinger4/16/2017 10:37:59 AM

Marfo has visited Seton Hall and Quinnipiac

notta hater4/16/2017 12:08:08 PM

remind me, are you allowed to practice with the team during your transfer down year? If so, Seton Hall might not be that bad of a fit if he practices all season to gain some better DI level in-the-paint skills for both ends of the court. If not and if sitting was a factor that drove him to transfer, he will not like Seton Hall either (with very few of the upsides that GW has from being a few blocks from the WH etc.).

thomas4/16/2017 12:16:52 PM

Notta Hater  Yes, guys sitting out are allowed to practice with the team.

boom4/16/2017 12:34:08 PM

Somewhere like Quinnipiac for Marfo. Goss is going to transfer down a few levels. As for Jordan my hunch is that he heads back to upstate new York to get 34 minutes a night. I could see a school like Providence sell Marfo on coming but I think he is too bright to go somewhere his playing time would be further reduced. 

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basketball mind4/16/2017 12:47:17 PM

I hear Goss has a few options. As most of you said on this board . You can't teach 6'11". The problem is as a program you have to develope 6'11" . There in lies the issue with our system.  

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hugh4/16/2017 1:10:27 PM

Siena for Roland is my guess. 

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the dude4/16/2017 2:07:16 PM

Siena makes a lot of sense.  Good guess Hugh.

Goss was not a development issue.  

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bigfan4/16/2017 2:49:22 PM

Marfo, like Smith and Toro, was not developed and regressed. Well actually we don't know what happened to him since he didn't play a good chunk of the latter part of the season, though apparently uninjured.

 Hope it was because he said he was leaving, but even that makes little sense. Could have used some spot minutes for toughness.

Would have liked to give him another year to develop if he wanted it. Guess he thought handwriting was on the wall or whatever or wanted to play closer to home (Seton Hall) maybe 20,25 minutes away.

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jammer4/16/2017 3:11:06 PM

You have to earn playing time.  Hard to imagine any BCS school watched the game film on Marfo and is dying to get him. Looks like another Copes.  I would guess he lands at a much lower conference school. 

Jordan is the intriguing one. He is undersized and inconsistent but showed he can get hot at times and light it up. Would he be content as a reserve player or does he transfer down a few notches to max playing time?

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ruserious4/16/2017 3:50:40 PM

Roland to Siena??  LOLOL  I don't think so.

nero stole my boyfriend4/16/2017 4:05:37 PM

Roland to Stony Brook, Albany or Binghampton. Possibly Rutgers. 

boom4/16/2017 5:30:08 PM

Nero, sounds about right good list. 

2cents4/16/2017 5:43:04 PM

I agree, NSMB. That looks about right. I think those are schools at an appropriate level closer to home.  It all depends on where he fits. RUserious, why not Siena? I can't tell your intent with that post.  Siena Board seems to think he may be of interest.  

Marfo is a big question mark. Was he underutilized and developed? Could he be the big man many thought pre season? I guess it depends on coaching. I see him moving to a smaller program that can turn him into the big fish. 

Goss seems like a great kid, and I think he could also thrive in a smaller conference...or perhaps get back to pitching. 

I wish them luck and good fortune wherever they land. 

the dude4/16/2017 6:02:28 PM

I also suspect JR transfers closer to home and down a level or two.  For all of the hoopla on this board about him, there's a reason he played close to zero last year on a team that had no depth and this year was inconsistent, at times though really great offensively, that is surely something I never saw coming.

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jfw4/16/2017 11:28:27 PM

Why do you say not developed? If Jordan had transferred after year 1 would you have said ML didn't develop him?  Are you now saying that mojo developed Jordan whereas  ML failed to?  

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2cents4/17/2017 7:29:50 AM

...and let's not pretend that had he stayed he wouldn't have been a key player for us... Possibly averaging double digits, especially if he improved as much as he did between fresh and soph years.  And, of course he is going down a level. Not because he couldn't stay at this level...He doesn't have a ton of choices.  He can't transfer to the A10, and most other programs around are either up a level or down. I wouldn't be surprised if he got some looks from lower level teams in bigger conferences, like Big East for instance.  Dude, just because he is transferring doesn't mean you were "right" about him. In fact, you were one of the few people who held your position and I still haven't really heard you say you were wrong about him.  

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jfw4/17/2017 12:29:23 PM

Stony Brook 

i have friends4/17/2017 12:44:04 PM

Patriot League.  Somewhere in Pennsylvania.

pj4/17/2017 1:04:35 PM

There are 50 schools similar to GW. Lots of options. If he does transfer down levels that does in fact say something. I expect Jordan to transfer up. I would be very disappointed if goes down a few levels 

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greenpoint ny4/17/2017 2:03:44 PM

I dont think he transfers up. I think stays in the same ballpark or goes down a level.

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long suffering fan4/17/2017 2:12:20 PM

Kinda sad how many have not recognized how good Jordan is, especially in the last few minutes of a game.   Unlike Kethan, who I thought bailed on the team, I believe that Jordan was forced off by a staff that really did not know how to use him.  This one will really hurt.  I look for him at a school like Butler (since we have become their bitches anyway).  Wishing him the best of luck.

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long suffering fan4/17/2017 2:19:12 PM

Do people really think that he would transfer from GW, where he would have been a starter next season, to play in Albany or a Patriot league team?    He is not Damien Bryant.

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the dude4/17/2017 4:22:17 PM

Same old tired Kethan bashing from LSF.

Also, JR was not "forced off by this staff."  He got a chance to play big minutes and did well with the opportunity. 

the mv4/17/2017 5:09:34 PM

Putting aside non-basketball reasons, if you're willing to assume that JR is transferring due to a basketball-related reason or reasons, there's really only three that could be in play:

1) He came to GW to play for the former coach and no longer has that opportunity

2) As I detailed last week, he was not pleased with the inconsistent way in which he was utilized by the current coaching staff (starting, not starting, 28 minutes one game, 11 minutes the next)

3) He senses the ship is sinking and wants to abandon it.

A fourth theory would be that he didn't agree with how he was being used on-court though I don't think that's it.  Probably not #3 either.  My guess is a combination of 1 and 2, with 2 being the biggest factor.  Admittedly a guess on my part.

 

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pj4/17/2017 5:48:05 PM

He got zero playing time by the Coach who was fired for abusing his players. Don't think that is the reason. 

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gw694/17/2017 5:52:14 PM

If it's number 2 it's the same old spoiled kid crap.I hope he gets what he wants elsewhere.I assume he would have gotten more time next year--but

maybe he believed he wouldn't --right or wrong.I know kids are different

these days--but reason 2 just doesn't stir my soul or evoke much empathy.

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the mv4/17/2017 6:21:20 PM

I guess I always equate the spoiled kid crap as belonging to someone who is upset because they feel they deserve to play more when in reality, they don't deserve this.  In Jordan's case, he should have played far more consistently and often than he did.  As for PJ's comment, asked and answered about 100 times.  Anyone clinging to the "well, at least MoJo played him whereas Lonergan barely did during JR's freshman season" rationale is sorely misguided.

(By the way, I have to wonder if The Dude thinks to himself something along the lines of "everyone here knows I hated PJ's game, so if I start posting as PJ, nobody would ever think it's me because everyone knows how much I hated his game.  Therefore, I'll post as PJ and nobody will ever think it's really me."  I'm going to go with YES, this is exactly how this simpleton's mind works.)

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ziik the peasant4/17/2017 6:25:16 PM

MV, you're sounding a bit like Bo. Are you Bo? 

I agree with your JR comments. Not the Dude remarks. (Who care about fictional electons, grouped into a name?)

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long suffering fan4/17/2017 6:33:23 PM

Do people really not see a difference in the way that a frosh and a soph are used in terms of playing time?  If not, someone else please explain...I don't have the energy. 

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gw694/17/2017 6:53:55 PM

I understand your point of view---but I think it's still spoiled--because 

that's what HE thought.---Not the staff.

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gw05094/17/2017 9:32:54 PM

Roland visiting Siena per Rothstein

am4/17/2017 9:40:14 PM

Ah, the ol' "Jordy, go see my boy Patsos" from Lonergan. 

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bigfan4/17/2017 9:44:53 PM

Yes, horrible , mean coach still cares about his kids.

Abused player somehow decides to consider playing for abuser's best friend. Call Kilgore.

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am4/17/2017 10:15:26 PM

Not what I meant, lol. I'm still upset we lost him to transfer, though. 

pj4/17/2017 11:16:15 PM

ML players transfering down. Mojo getting better players to come in their place. All looks good to me

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ct colonial4/17/2017 11:34:58 PM

If JR ends up going to Siena, he'll probably put up some big numbers.  

ct colonial4/17/2017 11:45:52 PM

@PJ In an interview posted here before last season, ML said that Jordan Roland was going to be the team's most improved player.  Jordan was probably going to get a lot more playing time this season regardless of who was coaching.  

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100.16.61.1584/18/2017 12:11:11 AM

Delante Jones:

Per 40 Minutes

 
 
Season School Conf G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2015-16 American Patriot 30 997 4.7 10.9 .426 3.1 6.7 .464 1.6 4.3 .368 3.6 5.2 .698 4.3 2.1 0.9 0.2 3.2 3.3 14.5
2016-17 American Patriot 30 949 5.1 12.6 .406 3.5 7.7 .448 1.6 4.8 .339 2.7 3.9 .685 4.3 2.2 0.9 0.3 4.0 3.8 14.5
Career American   60 1946 4.9 11.7 .416 3.3 7.2 .456 1.6 4.5 .353 3.1 4.5 .692 4.3 2.2 0.9 0.3 3.6 3.5 14.5

Per 100 Poss

 
 
Season School Conf G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS   ORtg DRtg
2015-16 American Patriot 30 997 7.5 17.6 .426 5.0 10.8 .464 2.5 6.9 .368 5.8 8.4 .698 6.9 3.4 1.4 0.4 5.1 5.3 23.4   96.7 108.5
2016-17 American Patriot 30 949 7.8 19.3 .406 5.3 11.8 .448 2.5 7.4 .339 4.1 6.0 .685 6.6 3.4 1.4 0.5 6.1 5.8 22.2   87.3 108.5
Career American   60 1946 7.7 18.5 .416 5.1 11.3 .456 2.5 7.2 .353 5.0 7.2 .692 6.8 3.4 1.4 0.4 5.6 5.5 22.8   91.8 108.5

Jordan Roland:

Per 40 Minutes

 

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Season School Conf G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2015-16 George Washington A-10 35 163 2.7 11.0 .244 2.2 7.6 .290 0.5 3.4 .143 4.2 5.4 .773 3.4 1.2 1.2 0.2 1.2 5.4 10.1
2016-17 George Washington A-10 35 703 5.0 10.5 .476 2.6 4.7 .549 2.4 5.9 .417 0.9 1.3 .696 4.0 2.7 1.5 0.6 1.4 3.2 13.4
Career George Washington   70 866 4.6 10.6 .430 2.5 5.2 .478 2.1 5.4 .385 1.5 2.1 .733 3.9 2.4 1.5 0.5 1.3 3.6 12.7

Per 100 Poss

 
Season School Conf G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS   ORtg DRtg
2015-16 George Washington A-10 35 163 4.0 16.4 .244 3.3 11.3 .290 0.7 5.1 .143 6.2 8.0 .773 5.1 1.8 1.8 0.4 1.8 8.0 14.9   89.0 105.9
2016-17 George Washington A-10 35 703 7.5 15.7 .476 3.8 7.0 .549 3.6 8.7 .417 1.4 2.0 .696 5.9 4.1 2.3 0.8 2.0 4.7 19.9   120.7 106.2
Career George Washington   70 866 6.8 15.8 .430 3.7 7.8 .478 3.1 8.0 .385 2.3 3.1 .733 5.8 3.6 2.2 0.8 2.0 5.4 19.0   114.2 106.2

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a real former colonial4/18/2017 1:48:00 AM

I hear Maine Colonial is Steve Wyman who runs GW alumni association in Maine. He is boys with PN. Dude has a few new names including PJ and Boom. Sad to see GW staff doing Patrick's dirty work in an attempt to cover his ass. Trashing Jordan, Goss, Sina and Marfo who left because their Coach was fired unjustly is a new low for the propaganda machine. These are good kids who deserve better.

One more transfer coming. How will they spin it?  Matt Ryan won't be coming to GW.  Brey won't allow it because he knows what really happened.  The program has been destroyed as part of the coverup.  Why do you think a third asst was hired as interim and kept on without a search?  Shhhhhh!  Ask Tyler what he thought about his coach this year compared to last year or just view the last 2 minutes of the 3rd loss to Richmond. The Hatchet should interview every player leaving and ask them their thoughts on the AD and their former coach. The recruits and transfers we have coming will solidify us as a bottom feeder for the next 5 years. But PN's merry men will post and converse with each other behind numerous fake names to make it look like things are well. Do they really think anyone besides Dude and his 50+ names believes their lies? Real GW fans are sickened by what has transpired.

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ruserious4/18/2017 5:23:17 AM

You were up late last night, Mrs. L!

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gw124/18/2017 12:24:40 PM

I will wait until the summer is over and give everyone here on this board the whole truth about the coaching staff and administration. Trust me no lies here total disaster. Kids are leaving for many reasons and has alot to do with the coaches and adminstration. And good luck to Mojo and his staff on future recruting. they have left a bad taste and broke solid relationships with numerous high level AAU programs and HS coaches. 

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boom4/18/2017 12:36:44 PM

All lies actually  should be  learnt by now  The attempt to arson the program and this board from one deranged ML tory is truly pathetic. Widely known that the person who damaged AAU relationships was ML not Mojo. Nice try now please go away. 

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danjsport4/18/2017 12:41:55 PM

Why wait, GW12?

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bigfan4/18/2017 7:54:00 PM

Dan J is right.

If you've got something GW12, best to spell it out now.

Same for anyone with any information on either side or no side.

We're not being told anything.

We got a drive-by shooting in the paper that raised more questions than it gave answers.

While we have to do a huge amount of sifting to separate the wheat from the chaff, here at GWhoops.com is

the only place we've gotten any information.

So, the derisive posters should hold their fire. Anyone who has real information should come out with it and backup any ominous comments with details.

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notta hater4/19/2017 6:15:55 AM

I don't know what brings me here. The chance to be with like-minded folks who have the same passion for a team and the school they attended and maybe get some good inside dope from time to time . . . or watching the train slowly derail. 

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tuna can4/19/2017 2:54:08 PM

I swear, each morning, herve must check in to see if there is any damage, read for a minute or two and end up doing a facepalm. 

ziik4/19/2017 4:07:18 PM

Roland rumors:

http://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-sports/article/George-Washington-transfer-considering-Siena-11083805.php

florida colonial4/19/2017 4:23:01 PM

Interesting Quote.. Very sad to hear.

Pete Lobello, Roland's AAU coach, said the George Washington program was "becoming a toxic situation."

"There was some internal squabbling going around,'' Lobello said. "It kind of turned him off right away ... During the year, there were some situations that arose that maybe weren't handled the way he thought they were. He was afraid moving forward, would it be handled correctly? He would have played. I just think it was more internal faith in how the whole thing was being run. Some of the assistants I don't believe were getting along great and it was pretty obvious."

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ruserious4/19/2017 4:39:44 PM

Haven't a few of us said there was trouble between Hajj and Carm and it was very uncomfortable for the players?  

People are always asking for "the truth" and when actual truthful things are posted they are "pooh poohed" or dismissed with sarcasm or anger. 

 

 

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ziik4/19/2017 4:43:32 PM

The issue is one of anonymous sources, and, of course, our intense distrust of each other.

buff and blue bandit4/19/2017 4:44:22 PM

Can someone copy over the entire text of the article. It is behind a paywall.

 

Thanks!

greenpoint ny4/19/2017 4:44:51 PM

Like I said before it is a shame to lose a kid like roland who has potential. My feeling is that he was spooked by the turmoil and overall instability of the program. 

1. We lost our coach just before the season (who he was recruited by) now going to his buddy at Siena

2. We hired a coach with no head coaching experience (he did well though considering)

3. Haj and Carm got passed over but stayed and that must of been uncomfortable all around

 

When the ship is sinking chaos and panic begin to arise. Not knowing what the hell is going on probably fueled the fire even more. My opinion is that he was convinced by either his AAU coach, his parents, and possibly ML to go elsewhere. Lonergan was talking him up just beore he got the axe. What a nice FU to the program by taking a solid player away and gifting it to a friend lol. 

 

 

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ruserious4/19/2017 4:46:52 PM

"What a nice FU to the program by taking a solid player away and gifting it to a friend lol. "

wouldn't expect anything less.

 

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ziik4/19/2017 4:47:57 PM

Jordan Roland already won a championship at Times Union Center. He could join the Siena men's basketball team in its quest to earn another Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference title.

Roland, a 6-foot-1 guard from the Syracuse area, is considering transferring to Siena. He'll visit the campus on April 28, according to a source.

Roland led Westhill High School to the Class B Federation title at Times Union Center in 2014. He was twice named state Class B Player of the Year.

Roland spent the past two seasons at George Washington of the Atlantic 10. He requested his release from the Colonials after averaging 6.7 points and shooting 41.7 percent from 3-point range as a sophomore.

"I know he wants to have a school that is as challenging academically as GW is,'' his father, Rahsaah, said recently. "He wants to have an opportunity to be a part of something where he'll be able to get an oppportunity to play and help them win and play in the Dance (the NCAA Tournament)."

 

Roland, a good student, has also received interest from Patriot League programs, including Colgate. He would have to sit out a season in accordance with NCAA transfer rules and then have two years of eligibility remaining.

Siena head coach Jimmy Patsos recruited Roland out of high school and he visited Loudonville then. But Roland instead signed to play for George Washington head coach Mike Lonergan.

However, Lonergan was fired after Roland's freshman year amid accusations of player abuse. Assistant Maurice Joseph was elevated to interim head coach and had the interim tag removed last month.

 

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boom4/19/2017 5:01:22 PM

Hasn't ML done enough harm already to the program? 

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2cents4/19/2017 5:05:16 PM

FYI, as in the case of the TU article, if you are reading with an IOS device, you can click the reader mode icon (top left of address bar, looks like 3 long lines and one shorter) you can bypass the "pay to read" and read anyway. 

haha4/19/2017 5:16:17 PM

People are very stagnant yet creative. They can even link Jordan Roland's transfer to ML? LOL. If you are a ML hater, just say it. Don't use hypothetical shit to distort public attention. Even if he didn't transfer, the dispute between two coaches is obvious and is something that needs to be solved moving forward. 

The Romans destroyed from within!

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tmj4/19/2017 5:29:16 PM

Kind of soft if that was really the reason. Good luck at Colgate Jordan 

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bigfan4/19/2017 5:35:28 PM

How in the hell can you twist this to be Lonergan's fault?

In actually using a named person (a lesson Kilgore should learn), his AA coach, these frightening revelations of internal strife happened after ML left.

We invested two years in developing Roland, the way players should actually be developed, with more responsibility over time. While, like some others, used badly or not used at all at times this year, Roland had a clear path to playing time for the next two years and left. Voted with his feet because of instability.

We now have squat for a two-year investment in a young man who likes academics, can light up the opposing team and rally his own on the court.

How can any real fan not be disturbed at this report, which actually used names, not totally anonymous sniping? You can't pooh-pooh this away with bromides and accusations about the former coach. He was gone before the start of the season.

Have been warning on this board about what would have to be a weird relationship between a third assistant elevated (without all the great experienced coaches out there even being looked at) over the associate head coach and a more senior assistant.  Where has this happened? Be pretty hard pressed to find many situations where associate head coach didn't get the job.

Who would be happy in this position of being passed over and seeing no upward career path at their place of employment for decades? Yet, supposedly we decided everyone was cool and renewed the assistant's contracts.

To put it very gently and politely, something just seems off in this whole affair since September. GWhoops.com and now the Albany paper is our only source of news.

What the hell is happening to the basketball program at the school we love and the team we avidly support, often at great inconvenience? We are becoming a laughingstock all over the country for this self-imposed wound.

As GW graduate school alumnus Colin Powell would say, "you broke it, you bought it."

Someone, maybe the new President who will give a crap unlike the old one who is content to take a salary and do squat for a full year, had better do something.

And fix this nightmare before we are embarassed even further.

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ziiks third cousin twice removed4/19/2017 5:44:13 PM

GW is only a mid major basketball team. Why get so riled?

Heck, these assistant coaches are lucky to have kept their jobs. They could have been dismissed with ML.

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bad signs abound4/19/2017 6:12:19 PM

Isn't this every transfer's dream situation?

1)  Zero chance of making the NCAA tournament?  Check.

2)  Stagnant offense losing its top scorer?  Check.

3)  Infighting within the coaching staff?  Check.

4)  Starting PG publicly dissing the coach?  Check.

5)  Lack of faith in how the coach handles locker room situations?  Check.

 

I can't wait for Kilgore to interview the outgoing players and put that article out there.

 

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gw alum abroad4/19/2017 6:53:38 PM

A school as academically challenging as GW in the state of New York? Does Cornell even come close? He might want to look to another state...

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2cents4/19/2017 7:31:28 PM

I don't necessarily agree with this, and realize this is hardly scientific...and you won't like the results GWAA, but you had me wondering for shits and giggles...

http://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=George+Washington+University&with=Cornell+University

greenpoint ny4/19/2017 7:31:53 PM

You ML guys crack me up. Bigfan dont have a heart attack. I was inferring and not actually saying he did convince roland to go to siena..do you know the diffrence? I have nothing against Lonergan. I care more about the overall program and how GW is represented because I am an alum. The Lonergan era is over. I have moved on and am looking forward to next season. Mojo is working hard and I believe his work ethic and positive energy will bring quality kids to the program. Be prepared to see a diffrent style of play from the kids he is looking to recruit. I love Tyler but we need to get away from the one man show. Its a new begining for GW basketball and I am excited.

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boom4/19/2017 8:14:41 PM

Whose highly unprofessional behavior cAussed all of this bgfan?  One person put GW in this situation stop blaming GW and stop acting like GW brought this situation on itself!

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haha4/19/2017 8:59:04 PM

The typical "I dont know who to blame so I'll blame it on ML" type of bullshit LOL

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gw alum abroad4/19/2017 9:05:21 PM

2cents-- shits and gigles, only without the giggles. Your link proves Lenin's theory about the sum intelligence of the masses.

the dude4/19/2017 10:42:14 PM

Not sure I would take every word every AAU coach says at face value.  However, if there is any discord that needs to end, stat.

clairvoyant4/19/2017 11:02:18 PM

If Mojo is smart he will bring in his own staff asap. Can't have assistants at each other's throats. Bad look for program and bad for Mojo.

former colonial4/19/2017 11:11:35 PM

http://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-sports/article/George-Washington-transfer-considering-Siena-11083805.php

"...the GW program was becoming a toxic situation."

Read this article and see how PN's friend Steve(Maine Colonial) and the Dude try to spin it.  Or PJ or Boom or any of their 50+ fake names. Jordan and all the players know ML is innocent and that is why 4  have left the program this month. They know MoJo is in over his head as did Tyler.  Tyler did whatever he wanted including calling a timeout in the 3rd loss to the Spiders. Players would have left in August if they knew ML was getting fired. They could have left in late August and GW knew that.  Tyler, Jordan, and many others would have left.  This aau coach knows the truth and he isn't under a gag order.  Too bad the Post or Hatchet won't interview the 4 departing players and ask them why they left.  Or ask MoJo why he really was hired. Not one player or coach has said a negative word about ML.  Interesting!  ML isn't behind these guys leaving.  They are leaving because they know the truth.  Just ask them.

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says here4/19/2017 11:30:29 PM

That 'former colonial' = The MV.  Sad and pathetic. 

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bobo4/19/2017 11:51:05 PM

From the article related to Roland's visit to Siena:  

Pete Lobello, Roland's AAU coach, said the George Washington program was "becoming a toxic situation."

"There was some internal squabbling going around,'' Lobello said. "It kind of turned him off right away ... During the year, there were some situations that arose that maybe weren't handled the way he thought they were. He was afraid moving forward, would it be handled correctly? He would have played. I just think it was more internal faith in how the whole thing was being run. Some of the assistants I don't believe were getting along great and it was pretty obvious."

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says here4/20/2017 12:03:03 AM

The MV has been for many months posts spreading lies about the supposed downfall of the program under a series of fake identities. Hilarious he is trying to out Maine, who does a world of good for GW. Pathetic and harmful to the program his lies being spread here. Had to figure it was the same guy who hijacked a sports fan site  and invented 'USA' to  troll liberals. Now he is trolling anyone who supports the program and its current leadership. Go back 10 years the guy has been at the centre of every problem with the board. 

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long suffering fan4/20/2017 7:10:38 AM

I would love to read that Times Union article, former Colonial.  Any idea how to get it without having to become a paid subscriber?

long suffering fan4/20/2017 7:12:46 AM

I don't remember a poster who goes by the name "Says Here" having posted for the last 10 years.  Kind of hurts your credibility when you accuse someone of a series of fake identities when using one yourself.

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colonial ny4/20/2017 7:54:22 AM

I was able to link through to the Times Union article via the reporter's twitter account (some newspapers allow for access via social media and this worked for me).

 

https://twitter.com/MarkSingelais/status/854744813303988226

the mv4/20/2017 12:23:58 PM

Here's a little message for longtime poster Says Here....Fuck Yourself.  Wait, that wasn't nearly enough.  FUCK YOURSELF!  Still, I can improve upon this.  GO FUCK YOURSELF!  There, that sums it up.

First of all, I would never "out" anybody here.  I understand that the intent and spirit of this board.  It is supposed to be an anonymous message board where we can learn things about the program and give opinions over matters big and small.  I get accused of more shit here and for all I know, it may actually all be coming from one person.  It is tiresome.  I suppose I get these accusations because I'm posting as much as I do, and I had or have an antagonistic way of posting at times.  I can assure you that my worst days here (and there have been some bad ones) were nothing compared with what's gone on here over the past year or so.  Phony names that are anonymous to begin with, posters posting under other known poster names.  it's ridiculous and infantile.  It needs to stop and if registration is what it takes to see improvements, then I'm all for it. 

In the olden days, I would go at it with Blue Seats.  Yes, I know this was annoying to many.  But at least it was just two individuals, using one poster name apiece, airing out our differences.    A regular poster posting under a phony name did not happen back then (and if it did, nobody other than the said poster knew).  Did our incessant arguments chase away some respected posters?  I'm sorry to say that the answer is likely yes.  But again, this was nothing compared to the shit being pulled these days.  False accusations.  People with agendas rather than viewpoints. 

I can only say so many times that I have consistently posted only as myself on this site, using a former name of Mailvan and my current name of The MV.  I'm here so much that I literally don't have time to post under any other name.  More importantly, I have never had the inclination to do so.  However, there is a poster here who was linked to dozens of poster names, and admiited that he had done this.  It really shouldn't be too difficult to figure out who the real trouble maker is here.  Yet, I'm starting to feel that The Dude isn't the only one.  Whether it's 1, 10 or 100 of you, for the sake of this board, please just stop.

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long suffering fan4/20/2017 1:31:16 PM

Thank you Colonial New York.

iamserious4/20/2017 1:56:08 PM

GW hoops continues to unravel and the other big transfer hasn't even announced yet - and won't be bothered with all this nonsense until finals are over.

Add in the moron GW Alum Abroad trying to compare GW to Cornell and it's quite the comedy. GW Alum Abroad, take a look at the USNWR from the past decade and wake up. Add in the fact that we did away with the SAT/ACT requirement, hire and fire known terrorists and keep a sexual predator on staff and fire a great coach and you have the sinking ship scenario.

I knew Maine Colonial was doing the dirty work of Nero and will now share this info with my classmates and fellow alum and have them email old Stevey and expose his fat ass.

Lets try and get to the Patriot League while we still have a chance!

greenpoint ny4/20/2017 2:27:35 PM

IAMSERIOUS i think you should rename yourself INEEDANGERMANAGEMENT

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maine colonial4/20/2017 2:29:26 PM

All the other GW sports programs seem to be drama-free except for this one and all the sane people know why this one's the anomaly.

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bigfan4/20/2017 3:16:18 PM

Indeed, wonder why this is.

Really smooth sailing in GW athletics,especially the critical sport of sailing.

This turbulence and drama doesn't make any sense.

Did something happen this year, with fallout that is still happening, to prompt this drama?

boom4/20/2017 3:27:03 PM

Yes, something did. A report triggered an investigation that found ML was abusing the players and GW was forced to terminate him for cause. Thankfully ML in his wisdom had a staff of good young assistants and the program is moving. Forward. The same young assistants the ML die hards used to insist were amazing and incredible. Unfortunately one person can not past this and is wrecking mayhem on the board.  You specifically seem to encourage this and should reconsider the damage encouraging that is doing here. That same person used your poster name repeatedly yesterday and has taken to outing people on what is supposed to be a fun anonymous place to discuss the program everyone here in theory supports. 

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haha4/20/2017 3:45:38 PM

Some people here acting like it's the end of GW Athletics. I'm only seeing this as a bad situation with the Men's basketball program. Those people that are exaggerating everything must have mental problems. This is one of the best year in GW sports history. SAs are excelling in many different areas, and no school can beat us in community involvement whatsoever. 

Absolutely no need to talk about anything aside from the transfer or the basketball program. It's just basketball!!! Yall be reacting like GW is shutting down tmr. WTF?

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ruserious4/20/2017 3:52:17 PM

"Did something happen this year, with fallout that is still happening, to prompt this drama?"

Yes, they kept on Lonergan's disfuntional staff

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hondo4/21/2017 1:13:09 AM

Just would like to know where they all end up. Wish them all well especially Goss hope he finds a good home where he can play and maybe even pitch!

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pj4/21/2017 1:23:29 PM

My name is Phil Jansen. I graduated last year. Don't know what you are talking about you seem to have issues. 

really4/21/2017 1:46:55 PM

"Phil" funny I don't see you listed for class of 2016. Care to enlighten us?

ziiks third cousin twice removed4/21/2017 1:51:30 PM

What sort of imbecile does background checks?

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really4/21/2017 1:59:47 PM

A much smaller imbecile than the one who uses 50 different screen names here and constantly feels the need to lie anonymously. 

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ziik the peasant4/21/2017 2:06:55 PM

That sort of imbecile easily is tracked by The Great Herve, and dealt with off the board, in private, by a smart bomb delivered by drone to his inbox.

We really are a bit hysterical in thinking Herve cannot handle things.

My guess, you lie too.

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rkelley4/21/2017 9:55:26 PM

Sucks we're losing JR. A coach with a brain is going to play him 30 minutes and he's going to score 12 points a game with a couple of assists and steals and excellent defense. What a fail to lose him. Absolute fail. 

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dongmattingly4/21/2017 9:57:52 PM

RKelley is correct. What a fail.

aau4/21/2017 11:37:27 PM

Close friend tells me Jordan is ready to ink up with St. Francis. Runner up was Binghamton

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you are very wrong4/22/2017 8:18:45 AM

AAU. Not even close. Your friend has no clue. 

goggles4/22/2017 6:06:12 PM

Binghamton

wrong4/22/2017 6:09:03 PM

kentucky

aau4/22/2017 6:41:54 PM

Nah St Francis is basically done deal. Binghamton close second but Jordan was told he would be coming off the bench there. Also considered Colgate 

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gw724/23/2017 4:38:46 AM

St Francis is among the worst D1 Programs. Bottom 10 last year 

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pj4/23/2017 12:23:14 PM

St Francis? Really?

2twotoed4/23/2017 12:43:20 PM

If the best place Jordan can play at is St Francis then he really is no loss. Quite frankly, he can shoot, showed glimpses of being able to get to the basket and played decent defense. He brought a skill set that was lacking at GW. I'm hoping for his sake he ends up at a better place. This program really needs a legit couple of players to transfer in ASAP.

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the mv4/23/2017 2:55:24 PM

No, JR is a big loss and where he ends up does not diminish the size of that loss to us in any way.  Some kids want to transfer so that they can play 35 minutes a game and do all they can to help a team win.  If JR has professional aspirations, maybe this is a better path than playing 10 minutes a game for a major program.  If it turns out that both Seton Hall and Quinnipiac have interest in Marfo, he will have a similar decision to make.  Judging losses to GW's program solely by where transfers end up makes little sense.  What they end up doing ( how they perform) where they end up is a far more meaningful metric.

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gw724/24/2017 3:14:52 AM

Roland can't do better than St Francis?  Where do you think Marfo ends up?  Do teams still factor his High School ranking or just base him on his quality of play last year. 

in the know4/24/2017 6:07:41 AM

Jordan has not ever communicated with St. Francis.  

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