Our pathetic non-conference home schedule
sw
 10/12/2017 5:50:21 AM      Replies: 35

sw8/30/2017 2:55:46 PM

They wanted to jack my season ticket prices up by 60% for this? What a fucking disgrace.

 

EX--Fairmont St

Howard

Hampton

Rider

Morgan St

Princeton

Miami FL

UNH

Harvard

 

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gw future8/30/2017 2:59:52 PM

Coach Mojo must have gone to the Karl Hobbs School of Non Conference Scheduling. 

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bobo8/30/2017 3:03:09 PM

I think Miami will be a good team next year.

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gw student8/30/2017 3:04:19 PM

soooo no bryant game then...

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sw8/30/2017 3:06:42 PM

Oh no doubt, Miami will be good. But not anyone else.

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sw8/30/2017 3:07:05 PM

"Coach Mojo must have gone to the Karl Hobbs School of Non Conference Scheduling. "


Screams what little confidence he has in his team this year.

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a poster has no name8/30/2017 3:17:06 PM

Is it really any worse than last year's?

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a poster has no name8/30/2017 3:18:32 PM

(Granted we're doing the second part of the home and home with FSU and Penn State)

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gwsb148/30/2017 3:19:43 PM

You're kidding right? You have a team expected to compete at a high level in the ACC, Harvard - an annual threat to win the Ivy, Princeton -- who won the Ivy last year. Temple pretty much a home game at Verizon. Plus the Vegas tournament. I'd sign for this. 

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bo knows8/30/2017 3:20:47 PM

I think the criticism is unfair ...

We play 4 teams who finished with an RPI of top 50 last year ... FSU, Miami, Xavier and Princeton

We may play Kansas State who was 53.

There are possibly 5 other games against top 150 teams.

There are only three games against teams lower than 275.

If you want to say that the majority of home games are the weaker ones fine ... but this is definitely not Karl Hobbs OOC scheduling.

 

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the mv8/30/2017 3:43:48 PM

Someone at Bryant University's SID department needs to be scolded.  They absolutely claimed to be playing at GW on Sunday, Nov. 12 in DC.  That would have been 2 days after Howard and two days before Florida State so it is very possible we opted against it.

gw05098/30/2017 3:46:34 PM

 Could it be that high major teams are afraid to play GW in the raucous Smith Center?????

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the dude8/30/2017 3:52:17 PM

Schedule looks fine.  Good mix of games both tough and on paper "easy."  

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ziik the senile old man8/30/2017 3:58:37 PM

UVa--when we nailing them again?

the mv8/30/2017 4:15:43 PM

Those critcizing this schedule either have short memories or weren't around this program during the Hobbs era.  In 2008-09, this was our home OOC schedule:  Binghamton, Harvard, UMBC, and American.  Plus, a BB&T game against Navy.  For many, many years, we NEVER had a Miami or a UVA or even a Seton Hall visit the Smith Center because we were told by our defeatest athletic director and his "spokesman" here at that time that the economics of the sport would not allow this.  Why would a UVA or a Miami give up a home date to play on the road in a 5,000 seat arena, we were lectured time and again.  The reality was that Hobbs preferred the lightweight schedule (particularly at home) and Kvancz refused to push for higher quality home games.

This schedule is perfectly fine on average, and is downright fantastic compared to what we used to experience.  Also, IMO, scrutinizing the schedule becomes far less vital during a season where the likelihood of competing for an at large bid is substantially less compared to recent seasons.

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ziik the senile old man8/30/2017 4:23:12 PM

Wrong, again, MV.  The defeatist element at GW was led by one KHobbs, as evidenced by phony hoopla over beating nobody, to go 26-1. Then, choking.

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bo knows8/30/2017 4:32:10 PM

I don't know about anyone else here but losing to Duke in the NCAA round of 32 is hardly choking seeing how many times GW has appeared in such round against such opponent since then.

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the mv8/30/2017 5:02:03 PM

Exactly Bo.  Duke was the tournament's overall #1 seed that year, yet we choked against them?  Looks like someone's senility is kicking into high gear.  And, exclusivity needn't be applied to defeatism.  Kvancz talked often about how Power 5 conference schools would typically never play at Smith Center.  The exceptions were lower-echelon schools at the time like Oregon State or Providence.  The one time he absolutely could have had NC State play at Smith Center (in exchange for moving up our 2005 game with them to accommodate their Bowl game traveling fans), he couldn't even make that happen.  If you had asked Jack while he was at GW why he couldn't get schools like UVA, Miami or Seton Hall to play at Smith Center, he would have laughed in your face and told you how impossible that would have been.

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long suffering fan8/30/2017 5:26:47 PM

Aah...The annual "the schedule sucks" tread.  A return to normalcy.

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bigfan8/30/2017 5:34:17 PM

An equivocal schedule.

Overall, it balances out, but playing the Howard, Hampton, Riders of the world is not generally a great idea. Maybe 1 or 2 not 4. Because unless they are better than thought, they are probably not great in the RPI.

Of course, this is a bit of a restocking year, so RPI and strength of schedule not necessarily a consideration.

Some of the tournament and away games and Temple at Verizon are really good games with tough competition.

Unfortunately outside of Miami, no great home games, which is a fair point. Harvard can be good, Princeton the same, but Ivies generally a not wowers.

Wouldn't want this home schedule going forward in better years, for interest and post-season reasons.

But another fair point is that we never would have had Miami at home or the other big games we played in the past seven or so years, like UVA and Seton Hall as noted.

 

dmvpiranha8/30/2017 5:36:52 PM

Pretty much knew all the games for the OOC slate except the Florida State one. The Seminoles lose a lot of production from last year (Xavier Rathan-Mayes, Bacon, Beasley, and Isaac). I like their incoming class a lot which includes MJ Walker but they will be young like us.

Honestly, I think it's a good thing that we aren't scheduling overly tough given how young and inexperienced the team is this year. There are a few games on the schedule to test them, but it's also nice to get some wins to get their confidence up. We are not realistically shooting for an at-large bid otherwise the schedule would make less sense. We would also not benefit from a tough slate like a team such as Mount St. Mary's would coming from a weak conference (NEC). Mount St. Mary's was one of the best teams in the NEC last year (FDU and Wagner were in the mix as well - but Christian is easily the best coach in the conference) but they barely won any games OOC given their tough slate. Their tough schedule did however prepare them well for conference season and they went on to win the conference tournament as well.  

I wrote a brief examination of the other teams in another thread that I posted below. I don't think the teams that we are playing are the worst in their league (like Arkansas Pine Bluff last year) but they play in the bottom tiered conferences in Division 1.

Doesn't seem to be terrible since a lot of games are at home. Bryant was a middle of the pack NEC team last year but that conference is pretty terrible. Hampton is pretty consistently one of the better MEAC teams but again from a conference that ranks at the bottom. Rider finished 6th out of 11 in the MAAC but that conference is down this year. Xavier will probably be competitive at the very least in the Big East. Kansas State isn't one of the better teams but the Big 12 is always a pretty strong league. Arizona State is pretty much in the same boat in the Pac 12. Not sure they've been better than average since Harden left. Morgan State will probably be a sleeper in the MEAC. They are respectable defensively usually but cannot shoot the ball at all. Princeton has historically been one of the better Ivy programs in basketball and will be good again next year. The Ivy league has been able to land some good players of late over bigger programs. Penn State lost a few transfers this offseason I think but Carr, Reaves, and Garner will help them pull off some upsets here and there in the Big Ten. Not sure their talent is enough to finish near the top of the league though. We'll get to see former recruit Lykes play against us at home for Miami. They lost leading scorer Reed after he graduated but Newton is still there. I don't think they will be as good as last year though personally. New Hampshire was a decent America East team last year but that league is pretty much Vermont, Albany, and a bunch of other teams. Harvard will be pretty good again next year. Temple will be much better than last year. I think they'll be on the bubble at the very least in a strong AAC this year.

dmvpiranha8/30/2017 5:39:16 PM

On a side note - does anyone know if they are doing the get-to-know videos this year? With so many new players I was hoping they would do that.

goggles8/30/2017 5:39:48 PM

This chain is identical to those from 11 years ago. Except that Mailvan and Blue Seats have changed their poster names. Some things though never change. 

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thinker8/30/2017 5:52:13 PM

I think coaches should mostly tailor the schedule to the team that they expect to have that year. I'm not sure exactly how this particular squad with so many new and young players (and not much depth in big men) would benefit from getting its ass kicked repeatedly by higher level teams. I don't really know what kind of teams Maryland or Georgetown will have this year, but I can't say that I'd enjoy seeing them beat us down by 30 points.

I'm not exactly sure what different people enjoy about watching GW basketball but this is what I enjoy:

- I'd rather see GW blow out a lesser team than to see GW get blown out by a superior team

- I enjoy watching closely matched teams playing close games

- I enjoy watching a style of basketball that is uptempo more so than slow down

- I'd rather see a steal and fast break dunk or 3 than 28 seconds of solid defense, a good boxout, a rebound, walk the ball up the floor and then run a half court offense scoring a basket

That's in the games themselves. The most interesting thing for me, though, is watching the players develop over time. Seeing them grow into better players. So the most fun thing is watching the players and the team progress, game by game over the season and season to season.

Some of that is interesting to watch in a 20+ loss season, but mostly not.

So generally I'd like a OOC schedule that allows the players to learn, grow, develop confidence, get seriously tested a couple of times by better teams, but mostly be able to be competetive in most games and mostly win more games than they lose. Sometimes they can't do that at all against a ton of top 100 teams so sometimes I'm going to be fine with playing a weaker schedule in those years.

 

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ziik the senile old man8/30/2017 7:03:38 PM

MV, I appreciate my moniker, and thank you for it.

How about you go out and kick a dog, steal a cane or a walker? 

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am8/30/2017 7:37:47 PM

Fairmont State, our opponent for the exhibition game, is coached by Joe Mazzulla - brother of current freshman Justin Mazzulla.

florida colonial8/30/2017 7:59:19 PM

I'm ok with the schedule. If I was in the DC area I'd buy tickets

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wowser8/30/2017 10:54:14 PM

ziik is blue seats? I'll be damned!

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mentzinger8/31/2017 11:44:59 AM

It's all good till you get beat at home by Longwood.

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ziik the soothsayer8/31/2017 4:07:33 PM

I have seen ziik sit on Blue Seats, wowser. Thank the Spirit that ziik has lost 85 pounds.

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