GW Wins! 69-46
Created: 2/25/2015 8:57:42 PMReplies: 48
2/25/2015 8:57:42 PM - NJ Colonial - 1,883 posts (#17)
And the winning streak begins... Raise High!
2/25/2015 9:01:10 PM - Skittles - 149 posts (#126)
if they can keep this going into March, I feel good about our chances in the A10 Tourney. HUGE game on Saturday!
2/25/2015 9:12:20 PM - BACCAS92 - 567 posts (#43)
2/25/2015 9:18:24 PM - 22.214.171.124 - 1 posts (#3)
Played much faster today on offense, an improvement
2/25/2015 9:44:56 PM - Alumnus - 2,036 posts (#16)
BACCAS, you have the right to not be impressed. I have the right to say to you, who needs you and the "fan base." What, were there 2,000 people there tonight? And people wonder why we can't recruit "blue chip" players or corner the market on D.C. area players? Shit, there are like 1,000 colleges with basketball teams in the U.S. who would give up their accreditation to have a basketball team as good as we have. I love that these guys didn't get knocked down by their losing streak or what it did to their season, and came out and played like it matters. It always matters.
2/25/2015 9:46:42 PM - Mentzinger - 3,528 posts (#7)
Moved the ball better and oh yeah it helps when your PG goes 67% from 3. Negated Ndoye well on D and dominated the boards. Yuta, Kev and Garino are our international players. You can tell because oftentimes it seems like they are playing in a different time zone. Kopriva has developed such an all-around game with his 3 shooting, even finishes plays more around the rim. Almost Dokun-like development.
2/25/2015 9:55:52 PM - Shriveled Cockman - 2 posts (#2)
2/25/2015 9:57:23 PM - Cutis - 229 posts (#99)
Kopriva 5-7 ,2 assists, 13 points. Great job. McDonald 5-6 , 5 rebounds ,17 points ,unconscious. The team, 58 per cent from the field,only 9 turnovers, held Posley to 4-13. Who are these guys?
2/25/2015 9:58:24 PM - Once every six months - 1 posts (#3)
2/25/2015 10:02:51 PM - GW Vet - 35 posts (#217)
Not sure if we can keep it up at Davidson. If we can get a road win there, we will have officially turned the corner... but im not confident about saturday.
2/25/2015 10:06:15 PM - 126.96.36.199 - 2 posts (#2)
Then again, Bonnies beat Davidson at Davidson... so anything is possible.
2/25/2015 10:10:25 PM - Long Suffering Fan - 3,927 posts (#5)
Great first half on offense, second half not so impressed, as the assists stopped and the crowd was back to counting down the shot clock it seemed before every shot. What I was impressed with, however, is we played more sustained defense than we have in a long time. Amazing how good an offense can look when you hit 10-18 from the 3. It is also amazing how good the 1-3-1 looks when you have opponants who were as inept as shooting as the Bonnies were tonight. Also GW did a great job in containing Ndoye. in addition, definitely seeing defensive improvement each game with Yuta. We need to sustain vs Davidson this weekend.
2/25/2015 10:52:35 PM - NJ Colonial - 1,883 posts (#17)
Just watched the replay of the game - the Colonials looked great tonight.
2/25/2015 10:53:42 PM - BACCAS92 - 567 posts (#43)
We played some great first halves. UVA as an example. But 11-7 in conference is best case and more likely 9-9. Not good.
2/25/2015 11:02:17 PM - Long Suffering Fan - 3,927 posts (#5)
I am expecting wins at Mason and vs. UMass, loss vs. Davidson. 10-8 for conference.
2/25/2015 11:09:35 PM - Free Quebec - 6,153 posts (#2)
Good things happen when you are the aggressor.
The best thing today was how hard we went after it. We really competed on the board and we went after the loose balls in a way I haven't seen us do in a while. There was one long rebound in teh first half where Yuta went out after the ball. Can't remember if he dove or just outquicked them to get a hand on the ball. I think it wound up going out of bounds off us, but I was thinking "where has that hustle been?" (not fro Yuta but from everyone. To me, that play, really signaled that we were ready to do what we needed to win. And we really stepped upto the challenge of Ndoye, battling him not just on defense, but especailly on the boards. Even Yuta got position on him and battled hard to hold it and get a board.
At the same time, we were really aggressive on offense for most of the game. We moved the ball, attacked off the dribble, and shot it with confidence (usually not when the clock was running down, but sometimes when it was). Yuta was phenemonal during his first stint on the floor. Everyone was passing the ball well, Kopriva was really aggressive, Larsen got involved, and we shut down Posely.
I also thought we did a great job defensively of playing to the scouting report. Bona suffered by almost always paying 4 on 5. The PG (#0, forget his name) had some really nice passes early, but once the players realized he would lose a game of HORSE to Brian Bynes, they defended him much better and forced him to shoot. They also left the bench scrubs open and dared them to shoot, while collapsing on Ndoye and Posely (and not leaving Cumberbatch much, and not giving wright much other than garbage).
In fact, the non-scorers for Bona took 15 of their 46 shots (3-15). That's a huge win for our defense - it would be like a team making it so that Darian Bryant, Nick Griffin, and Ryan McCoy take a third of our shots.
The second half, I thought, we saw some of the bad habits return as we tried to milk the lead. We got passive and cautious on offense, especially when we took the air out of the ball, but KevLar outplayed Ndoye and did a great job getting him into foul trouble and then taking advantage of it.
And a special shout out to Garino. He once again strugged against a packed-in half court defense, but when Bona made a little run to get it to around 12 or 14 and the team got a little tight, he made back to back huge steals - one for a 3 point play, and one where he had a great pass to Paul that Paul botched. (In fact, Garino had 3 or 4 terrific passes, where guys blew the layup or easy shot or got fouled, keeping Pato from racking up assists). A few other random things:
- Paul's worst game in a while, but it was ok.
- Yuta stopped scoring, but I really liked how he competed all game.
- Great to see Swan hit a three.
- Great to see Bryant hit a three. But why does he turn it over almost every time he tries to drive. he does it like once a game, and turns it over way more than he scores. Not sure what happened to him, but I can't remember a player coming into the game and thinking "here comes a turnover" like this since Rasheed Hazzard.
- Cimino got one possession, but a Bona payer easily shoved him out of the way on a rebound, I suspect that's why he plays behind McCoy.
- If Kopriva is going to respond like that, maybe RKelley should rip him before every game!
2/25/2015 11:29:44 PM - Rowlonial - 8 posts (#244)
People are so down on the team because of the losing streak, but if we actually play well and win these next 3 games... we could be getting hot at the right time. Like in the NFL when it doesnt really matter how you've played up until the last few games before the playoffs and go in hot, usually that team goes really far. I could see this happening with GW. But at the same time I could see it also not happening just as easily... so who knows I guess. You have to remember, we really arent a bad team. We absolutely crushed the first half of the season with the win vs Wichita State and some other quality wins, and then got into a funk. The first half of tonight confirmed that the talent is there and the coaching is there. Just needs to fall into place at the same time/ players need to get hot at the same time. If we win the next 3 I think we could do really well in Brooklyn. We really are a neutral court team anyways right? haha
2/25/2015 11:35:19 PM - Flyer Fan-DC - 287 posts (#84)
Was at the game. Bonnies couldn't get anything going and a lot of it had to do with GW's impressive defense. I like Lonergan but I'm confused by his gyrations on the sideline. For instance, first half, the guys are on offense at the other end of the court . . . he's frantically tapping his head, motioning . . . but to who . . . how can they watch him and run an offensive play. It would confuse the hell out of me. That said, great win. All is well with a W.
2/25/2015 11:43:28 PM - BM - 5,437 posts (#3)
Anybody catch who the kid behind the bench with Georgetown sweats was? Looked like LJ Peak, but that's from across the arena (plus is doesn't make sense). Maybe someone we're both recruiting?
2/26/2015 6:02:35 AM - pops - 467 posts (#52)
Maggie was sitting with a parent and his kid in the 2nd row for the entire game. I'm assuming the kid was a recruit, although he did not seem like he was enjoying the experience.
Great feel good performance. Best help defense I've seen in a month. Joe was on fire. I don't often criticize the coach on little things but it was obvious joemac was on fire - he was 4-4 from 3 in the 1st half. yet ML didn't seem to acknowlege it. i would have kept joemac on the floor the entire game, instead he was freely substituted, and played fewer minutes than he has in a long time. the offense stagnated in the 2nd half, largely because savage was running the offense and joe when he was on the floor was taken out of the offense. it was well into the 2nd half before joemac even attempted a shot - hitting his 5th straight 3.
speaking of kethan, he came out limping toward the end of the game. the trainer checked out his ankle. kethan eventually went back in but it reinforces the feeling kethan has been favoring it some this year and it is perhaps the reason he has not seemed quite as explosive going to the rim this year.
2/26/2015 6:15:30 AM - herve - 9,014 posts (#1)
One thing you can always count on is going 10-18 from '3.
2/26/2015 6:18:45 AM - herve - 9,014 posts (#1)
2/26/2015 6:41:13 AM - Longing for Oscar - 1,020 posts (#31)
You could feel some more energy last night. It was nice to see us play with more agressiveness and confidence last night. Glad the snow held off until after I got home too.
2/26/2015 7:47:51 AM - BM - 5,437 posts (#3)
Pops, I would guess that kid was Nate Darling from Dematha, but again, that's just a wild guess from accross the arena.
2/26/2015 7:48:43 AM - Kaj - 39 posts (#213)
Fun fact: Joe only had one fewer three pointer yesterday than Griffin has made since conference play began (6-26).
2/26/2015 8:13:11 AM - Long Suffering Fan - 3,927 posts (#5)
Pops...why would you keep a starter in for an entire game, especially this late in the season, during a blowout win in which your team never lead by less than 12-14 points the entire second half and was never threatened? As for ML not acknowledging Joe, c'mon. Sounds to me like you are bending over backwards to criticize the coach.
2/26/2015 8:37:56 AM - Bo Knows - 521 posts (#48)
Well Herve, that's the law of averages right there.
On a separate note, it's funny how when the shots are going in everyone thinks we played with more energy, better defense etc. To me we were the same team except (A) we made our shots, (B) Bonnies shot horrendously from 3 and (C) Bonnies made too many turnovers given the defensive pressure. ML coached this game no different than others recently with one exception. He continued to shorten his bench. Maybe that is a clue as to why we are where we are - no consistent depth beyond Yuta and Paul. The point - ML is a good coach but probably just doesn't have the pieces to get this team where we all want it to go.
2/26/2015 8:44:29 AM - Free Quebec - 6,153 posts (#2)
I really disagree with that Bo. Go look at the way we rebounded and went after loose balls compared to the way we did it vs. Davidson. That is why I complemented our hustle. Agree on your points about ML coachign the same and the short bench.
Also as I pointed out, Bona was really affected by their short bench. They have 4 good players, but got basically nothing from any of the other guys on their team.
2/26/2015 8:47:27 AM - Pops - 467 posts (#52)
Not really. And it's just a small quibble there was a stretch in the 2nd half when our offense was struggling to score, it was no longer a blowout and bona was a few more baskets away from being back in the game. I don't really mean play him the whole game but he sat out for long stretches before the game was put away. I would have kept him on the floor and made sure he didn't go the first 10 minutes before I got him his 5th shot. That's all.
2/26/2015 8:54:29 AM - herve - 9,014 posts (#1)
We hit a bunch of tough, contested shots in the first half, shot at a blistering clip and hit a ton of threes--these are all anomalies and can't be counted on game-in and game-out. We CAN try and play harder and smarter than the opposition (like we did last night) and, win or lose, that would satisfy me the rest of the way this season.
2/26/2015 9:01:02 AM - BACCAS92 - 567 posts (#43)
I am not one to abandon our guys but jumping on the bandwagon is a little excessive. This team still has lost several games they could have or should have won (my expectations were not as great as others this year but there are several games they could have won e.g. Duquesne). However, I think the reaction to one win (even if well played) over a middle of the pack A-10 team is too much. We didn't beat Kentucky and even if we did, we will likely be 10-8 in conference at best and likely 9-9. I don't believe we will beat UMass or Davidson. We play well against the bottom half of the conference at home and that is about it. We can't even beat the bottom half of the conference in away games. In previous years, we had the same issue but made up for it by winning against top half of the conference at home.
2/26/2015 9:41:47 AM - Bo Knows - 521 posts (#48)
FQ, had Bonnies shot their season averages from the floor and we shot ours - completely different game. Now you can attribute that to defense except Davidson didn't shoot that much better against us. However, we shot a lot worse in that game. Plus, Davidson is a different caliber and more scrappy opponent than St. Bonaventure in my opinion.
All I am saying is that last night obviously was a better outcome but I am not sure what fundamentally ills us has been cured or is capable of being cured night in and night out and that really is our lack of depth. We can overcome that when we shoot it well but to Herve's point that's not going to happen every night. I never thought this (the losing streak) was about effort or coaching but more about what we are/have as a team.
2/26/2015 9:45:11 AM - Bo Knows - 521 posts (#48)
One thing I will agree with you on FQ is that we did a better job not giving up offensive rebounds. While the overall rebounding margin was close to the same as Davidson, 10 less offensive boards was critical especially since Bonnies shot so poorly.
2/26/2015 9:58:06 AM - NewGWFan - 455 posts (#53)
One thing I'd like to point out. I think ML teams (and all teams for that matter) are most effective when all 5 players are threats to score on offense. This season, in comparison to last season, I don't think that's the case. Yes Kopriva has shown flashes here and there, but having two big guys last year in Armwood and Larsen made this engine go. I feel like this year, the team hasn't played well when Kopriva hasn't played well.
I think Cavannaugh will be a more consistent player for GW next year, and will make the offense more efficient.
2/26/2015 10:17:02 AM - Free Quebec - 6,153 posts (#2)
Right, Bo. We're unlikely to suddenly play like a tourney team again beacuse we aren't quite that good this year. That's why I said in my initial post that I was more happy about the effort and focus than about the margin. We just need to get back to playing with consistent intensity and focus and see what happens.
2/26/2015 10:22:11 AM - The MV - 4,719 posts (#4)
Where do I begin?
Pops, I'll meet you halfway. Nobody on this team plays an entire game, ever. Even if guys are taken out for 1 possession, it gives them an oppoprtunity to catch their breath. However, it's a head scratcher to watch Joe make his first two three point shots and then be almost immediately taken out simply because this is what the first half rotation calls for.
Baccas92. You've neatly summed up your feelings by essentially saying that even if GW beat Kentucky, you still wouldn't be too thrilled due to our conference record. For the record, if we beat Kentucky this year, I'm pretty confident I'd be thrilled, period.
LSF: I never think twice about a subpar second half after a game has been decided by halftime. (Definition: where there is never a serious threat that we will lose the game). This team desperately needed a win and milking the shot clock was actually a strategic tactic towards that end.
FQ/Herve: I'm with FQ entirely on this. There may have been a handful of contested made three's but there were plenty of uncontested ones including most of Joe's, Darian's, John's and Patricio's. While you can always make a case that this was due to poor defense rather than well-executed offense, the fact is that there were plenty of offensive improvements last night. Players, as in multiple and not just Paul, moved without the ball. The ball movement was crisp and often one step ahead of the SBU defense. We attacked from all angles in multiple ways rather than the methodical dump the ball to Kevin or do nothing but pass the ball around the perimeter without trying to find a cutter or run a pick and roll. Offensively, we looked like a different team, and that's not solely because we made our shots. In reality, we made our shots because we received so many good looks as a result of a rejuvenated offense.
1) Joe was looking for his shot last night. He must continue to do this.
2) Yes, maybe the RKelley effect is responsible, but John really played well on both ends last night. What a difference having a second low-post defender battling alongside Kevin, as opposed to games where John has disappeared at times this season.
3) Did anyone else think for a second how unbelievable it would be if Kethan suffered a serious injury for the second year in a row, both times against SBU?
4) Not nearly enough has been said here about the defensive job that Pato has been doing against much smaller and quicker players. Though Posley did drive past him at least once last night (and Kendal Anthony before that), the reality is that Pato is taking these guys completely out of their comfort zones. Posley was 0-6 from the floor at halftime, when the game had been won and lost by then.
5) Great to see Darian and Anthony hit 3's as well as Ryan make a nice defensive play, forcing a turnover. For what it's worth, I think this team plays more cohesively when more players are contributing, even if we're talking relatively small contributions.
6) Need to see the same effort, passion, offensive movement, and help defense for the next 3 games. If we consistently see this, Brooklyn might be more interesting than you think.
2/26/2015 10:29:02 AM - bobo - 3,118 posts (#8)
Making shots makes everything look better but GW did play faster, especially in the 1st half. Joe RAN the ball up the court, they spread the offense and moved the ball. It wasn't a dump it down to Larsen over and over again as ML pulled Larsen out on the perimiter to negate the shot blocking opportunities for Ndoye. Lonergan also said that the 1-3-1 was more effective Wednesday as the players put more energy in. ML repeated the observation that GW's 1-3-1 hasn't been as effective this year because a couple of players haven't been putting in the work (my guess is Larsen and Savage).
Kopriva didn't quit on his team Wednesday, proving he's more than just a lazy kiss up, coaches' pet.
2/26/2015 10:35:04 AM - class o 70 - 9 posts (#243)
surprisingly unmentioned was a blisteringly fast pass right on the money from Yuta to whoever was under the basket......Yuta displaying patience and high b-ball IQ!
Great effort, great hustle, by the whole team last night!
loved the Swann 3 !
2/26/2015 10:36:53 AM - Mike K - 1,085 posts (#28)
As someone who has been on the board calling for Swanny to get some PT, and also calling/yelling for him last night (yes, that was me), I was happy to see him hit his only shot in his 1:03 of PT. Now, to maybe get a few more minutes. ....
2/26/2015 10:39:17 AM - Mike K - 1,085 posts (#28)
class o 70, there was a blistering pass from Pauly Jorgs to KevLar under the hoop that was impressive. I may have missed the Yuta pass.
2/26/2015 11:20:23 AM - Mentzinger - 3,528 posts (#7)
ML cited talk of making the NCAAs, in part, for the losing streak, saying it "got us tight."
2/26/2015 12:43:29 PM - DKM - 119 posts (#141)
Watanabe's laser pass was to Kopriva who layed it in -- it was a great play by John just to catch the pass because it was a fastball. I too wish that we played more folks even if they are in 1 minute spurts -- when the frosh get in there, while the result is not always pretty, it certainly seems (at least to this fan) that the tempo picks up. While it was only one shot I thought Swan has a nice stroke and I'd like to see more of him. He also seems bigger than Griffen so I'm not sure why Griffen gets minutes over him. If it is because of Swan's lack of defense then I have to wonder how bad it could be because Nick has been with the program for two years now and his defense seems wanting too. I did feel for Nick however when after just entering the game, he slipped on a designed play that was set up for him to take a three and thus he missed teh shot -- of course, he was pulled shortly thereafter. That young man can't get a break.
2/26/2015 1:09:41 PM - Pops - 467 posts (#52)
Baccas, I'm not sure what previous years you are referring to. Or for that matter, what band wagon. I think we will most likely close out 2-1 because we can beat UMASS at home. But we could easily go 1-2. There is less chance we could go 3-0 but it's possible. There is also a chance, I think this is least likely but chance we lose out.
2/26/2015 1:43:13 PM - Hugh - 146 posts (#129)
Love this picture:
2/26/2015 8:25:13 PM - Colonial77 - 13 posts (#239)
Last night was a good win. Now if they can build on this by getting a road win Saturday would be even better. Nobody should be thinking beyond the next game. One win at a time is how you rebuild team confidence.
2/27/2015 2:12:44 AM - The Crimedog
I think we're massively understating how dissapointing a season this has been. Coming off an NCAA tourney season, returning everyone but 2 (pretty key) guys, the rising Core 4, picked to finish 2nd in the conference, etc. The early emergence of Yuta, the 16-4 start (although cracks were already clearly showing as people have noted) with the Wichita St win as the peak. From that point, to be in this position, exceptionally dissapointing. More concerning though than the mounting losses, two very disturibing developments: Not one player has really improved this year, in fact most have regressed, chiefly Pato and Savage, the two most talented guys, the two guys you'd expect to really emerge this year. Both of those guys are playing well below their ability, KevLar dissapears for entire games, Joe hasn't played as well as he did last year. 2nd, getting very little from the past 2 recruiting classes, essentially nothing from the 2013 class. Cimino was the top rated recruit and he looks like a guy who can't physically play at this level. We're going to need a front court after losing KevLar after next season, the underclassmen are all undersized guys.
Not to lose sight of the massive strides the program accomplished last year and early this year, but lets not recast this season as an expected slide back. Everything was set up to take a step forward, we've taken a huge step back the last 6 weeks. Time to finish strong and build for next year. Need to turn around our key guys, get some better play from the bench, and start finding better recruits/transfers. More fire from everyone and a more consistent high effort would be nice to see.