OTHER GAMES THREAD
the dude
 2/25/2018 8:35:01 PM      Replies: 90

the dude2/14/2018 10:42:51 PM

Providence beat Nova, giving them wins over the #1 and #2 RPI Teams.  Ed Cooley is heading back to the Dance yet again.  UMass actually beat Providence. 

GW played the #2 RPI team Xavier.  Big win for GW opponent Florida St tonight too

 

 

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the dude2/15/2018 4:55:04 PM

Lunardi has Temple squarely on the bubble.  Atop his next 4 out.  The NCAA is very clear in their criteria, SOS, particularly in the OOC. quality RPI wins.  We can focus on and agree that KenPom does a better job, but that's not the NCAA tourney selection criteria.

Temple has a pair of top 5 RPI wins on a neutral court in their OOC and a ton of top 100 wins.

Davidson and The Bonnies, we shall see.  Much work to be done I'd say

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thomas2/15/2018 5:41:58 PM

Temple at #19 Wichita State  7 on ESPN2 - Temple has a chance to really improve their NCAA chances with a win here

#8 Ohio State at Penn State   8 on Big 10 Network

 

 

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the dude2/15/2018 5:58:44 PM

Thomas, Penn St's outlook is ..

thomas2/15/2018 7:14:02 PM

The Dude, I never really thought that much of Penn State until you asked the question and it looks like they are on the bubble or close to it. I saw that Penn State is now 8-6 in the Big 10(I thought they were worse than that), which should be good enough for NCAA tournament consideration. Penn State won at Ohio State earlier in the year, so a win tonight should really give their NCAA tournament resume a boost. 

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the dude2/15/2018 7:24:04 PM

Penn ST is 18-9 with a KenPom of 38.  They do have a weaker looking RPI resume, sort of an inverse Temple situation.  Def somewhere around the bubble.

Xaxier may well end up 1 seed. Florida St and Miami are tourney locks.  GW played a tough OOC.  Very likely 5 games against at large NCAA teams, went 1-4.  In all candor the OOC was a lot better than the A10 results.

Temple is TAKING IT to Wichita St, at Wichita St.  they win that puts them firmly in the tourney at the moment.

the dude2/15/2018 7:28:53 PM

Forgot Kansas St! That's 6 at large NCAA tourney teams on the OOC.  Rider btw, has an RPI of 65 and of course beat Penn.  Add in Harvard and Princeton etc etc, tough OOC.  team played well during a tough OOC.

the dude2/15/2018 7:48:32 PM

Temple drops 56 points on Wich St in the first half.  Up 56-42

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luvdagame2/15/2018 8:53:44 PM

The Temple/Wichita St. game is come down to the wire!!! No. 6 Purdue trailing Wisconsin!!!

luvdagame2/15/2018 9:01:16 PM

Wasn’t it just last year with Kaminsky, Wisconsin was ranked?

luvdagame2/15/2018 9:05:54 PM

Can’t see Purdue as a No. 1 seed in the tourney. Looks like No. 5 Cincy lost as well!!!

Wichita St. holds off Temple 93-86.

thomas2/15/2018 9:16:46 PM

Wisconsin went to back to back Final 4's(I think, I know they lost to Duke in the National Title Game recently) within the last 4 or 5 years. Their program has fallen off a bit since Bo Ryan retired, but they picked up a big win tonight.

Penn State leads Ohio State by 24 at the half!! What a turnaround for them. In the past few years, it seemed as if GW playing Penn State was a step down for GW, now things have changed. Does GW play Penn State again next year?  

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the dude2/15/2018 9:17:28 PM

Real shame for Temple, that would have been huge.

Penn St is blowing out Ohio St! Can THEY hold onto this huge lead!?

the dude2/15/2018 9:18:33 PM

Thomas I posted how good Penn St would people back in Nov, some scoffed at the idea.  They are LEGIT and led by that amazing Sophmore class.  Sound familiar?

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the dude2/15/2018 9:46:26 PM

this lead was 30, it cut in half quickly

3+ years ago I posted that Bo Ryan was on the short list of Best coaches in the country.  You can really see it, what did the program do before arrival and where are things 3-4 years later.  Consider Wisconsin before Bo's arrival, and where things are now.

Vermont had their best success right before ML's arrival, beat Syracuse in the NCAA tourney, and they are doing better this year than he ever had them at.  He did a pretty good job there, but really he just kept them near the level they were already at/small drop off.  

luvdagame2/15/2018 9:47:01 PM

Going back and forth between OSU and PSU but this Arizona and Arizona St. game is more exciting all because of Hurley!!!

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the dude2/15/2018 9:48:53 PM

Luv, another insanely great Coaching job done by a Hurley.  First Buffalo, now Arizona St.

 

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luvdagame2/15/2018 10:05:34 PM

The Dude - Sean (sp) Miller is pretty intense too just not as animated as Hurley!!!

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the dude2/15/2018 10:21:59 PM

LuvDaGame, its so true. He's got the crazy eyes, and constantly sweaty thing down pat!

Those Miller boys, they sure can recruit too.  In fact, best pairs of brothers of all time? Hurleys and the Millers?

thomas2/16/2018 10:25:46 AM

BIG nationally televised conference game tonight:

#16 Rhode Island at St.Bonaventure   7 on ESPN2 - I'm not sure of St.Bonaventure's NCAA tournament outlook at the moment, but a win here should really improve their chances. St.Bonaventure has won 7 straight games after a slow start in conference, and Rhode Island has won 16 in a row!!

the mv2/16/2018 11:21:03 AM

A win tonight by the Bonnies and I would absolutely have them dancing if the season ended tonight.  I think they should be ahead of Temple in the pecking order regardless of how they fare tonight.  Sometimes, we get a bit too caught up in these rankings and metrics which have a tendency to be skewed.  Strength of schedule is a great example.  Beating a team from the ACC should not mean the same thing as beating a team from the SWAC with an identical won-loss record.  Temple's resume looks far better than it should largely due to early season wins against Auburn and Clemson.  At the same time, they have lost to La Salle and GW, are 15-11 overall, and are 7-7 in the 7th highest rated conference.  That conference is being carried by three teams (Cinn., Wichita and Houston) in which the Owls are 1-4 against.  Lose at home to Houston on Sunday and I wouldn't see any path short of the automatic bid for Temple to make the Dance.  Meanwhile, the Bonnies are 19-6 and 9-4 in the 10th rated conference.  The featured OOC wins are at Syracuse and against Maryland on a neutral court, plus a very decent win over Vermont.  The only metric that drags SBU down are a few wins against dreadful teams.  But, it's not like they didn't challenge themselves in the OOC (like two years ago as an example).  If Temple beats Houston and SBU loses to URI, then the gap is narrowed.  Otherwise, SBU gets the nod as of now.

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the mv2/16/2018 11:42:58 AM

Against common opponents, SBU is 3-1 and Temple is 1-2.  Final point..the Bonnies can easily play their way in or out based on their remaining schedule: URI, Duquesne, at VCU, Davidson, at St. Louis.  That's a very tough stretch.

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100.16.146.322/16/2018 12:13:50 PM

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/groupId/3/teamId/179d

It doesn't matter what SBU vs Temple record in vs common opponents because they are not compteting against each other for a spot.  They are competeing against the field.  And Temple is OUT.  Way too low BPI, Pomeroy and other metrics that committee now encorporates (as well as RPI) but Temple simply haven't been consistent enough to get in.  Just 10-9 vs Top 150 teams.  2 additional losses to 150+ teams in GWU and LaSalle. Good Bye and Good Luck.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/groupId/3/teamId/179

SBU is on the bubble, though.  7-4 vs Top 150.  3-2 vs Top 50.  In the better ranking systems 2 of those teams don't make Top 50 (Buffalo and Vermont) but you can add back in MD who is 66 in RPI but higher in the other ones.  I though a while back that SBU had just 1 loss left if they wanted to get in so maybe a loss to URI and a win out for the regular season and a run to the conf tournament championship could get them in.  Or a win vs URI and a loss to Davidson and they still have a chance but they are bubble territory from now until the end if they don't win out in conf play.

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gw alum abroad2/16/2018 12:44:01 PM

Unmentioned is USF shocking St Mary's last night, a loss that that is very bubbly for the Gaels. Another slip-up and the WCC might be a one-bid if Gonzaga wins its conference tourney.

gw05092/16/2018 9:16:03 PM

Congrats to the Bonnies. We should get two teams in now. 

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fredd2/16/2018 9:18:24 PM

Bona wins the conference game of the year in Olsen! Not good for the conference but awesome for the Bonnies who have righted their season.

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thomas2/16/2018 9:29:34 PM

Great game in Olean as the A-10's best 2 teams played a game that came down to the final seconds. Lunardi had St.Bonaventure as one of the 'Last 4 In'(The MV you were right) before the game started, so they should be in comfortably now. I thought St.Bonaventure's resume/metric numbers were really damaged after they suffered some bad losses early in the conference season, but they ended Rhode Island's 16-game winning streak and have now won 8 straight. 

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bobo2/17/2018 12:28:47 AM

I wouldn't say there's anything comfortable about SBU's at large bid just yet, Thomas.  They're probably moved into the Last 4 In status after the home win vs URI.  They still have 4 games left and have to win at least 3 of them.  They can probably lose to @ VCU OR home vs Davidson but not both and nobody else as all 4 teams left are RPI 100+.  SBU now starts rooting real hard for the Middle Tennesse States, Loyola-Chicago and Buffalo's of college basketball to win their conf tournaments and not let in another mid-major conf tournament winner.

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the dude2/17/2018 12:52:37 AM

Looking good for the Bonnies.  Great win.

Helluva streak for Rhode Island, I think the nation's longest streak has come to an end at 17?

the mv2/17/2018 12:00:25 PM

Thanks Thomas.  Just a really high level game that both teams really wanted.  As Chris Spatola said during the broadcast, the eye test should tell you that both of these teams should be playing in the NCAA’s.  I would say that the Bonnie’s are firmly in right now but with a tough closing stretch that includes games against VCU and Davidson among others, they will have to stay relatively sharp to cement this.

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luvdagame2/17/2018 1:33:50 PM

Another fun packed Saturday with some good games!!! Damn, I love college basketball!!!

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bobo2/17/2018 1:34:51 PM

Per JoeyBrackets: SBU last of the Last 4 In.  That is the bubbliest of bubble selections.  That obviously assumes that the lower conf leaders win their tournaments and don't have to eat up an At-Large bid.  

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bobo2/17/2018 1:35:06 PM

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

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the dude2/17/2018 2:59:29 PM

Yes, he has them IN the NCAA tourney. Not sure if that includes their URI win last night. 

Heckuva slate.  Kansas St is pounding Iowa St, as they pull closer to their own bid.  PJ has been moved to the bench for Butler and responded with a very good game in 17 mins of action.

T-1 hour to the Marque Matchup of them all!

 

 

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bm2/17/2018 8:21:30 PM

UmD pounding ex-GW coaching staff early 17-4. 

bobo2/17/2018 10:21:38 PM

Dude, SBU being Last 4 In did include the URI win.  They were 2nd Four Out before that win for SBU.  

captain trips2/19/2018 1:27:36 AM

Rutgers is so bad lollol

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the mv2/19/2018 11:10:50 AM

Lunardi has SBU as an 11 seed in a play-in game.  Jerry Palm has them as an 11 but no play-in game.

Anyone know why the non-16 seed play-in games feature two 12 seeds and two 11 seeds.  Why not just all 12 seeds?  Seems like the 12’s without a play-in game have it easier than the 11’s with a play-in game (though these 11’s have historically done quite well).  Are these 12’s considered better or worse teams than the 11’s with play-ins?

the dude2/19/2018 6:49:14 PM

Big game at 9pm. Trae Young and company really need a win tonight,  ESPN

thomas2/19/2018 7:55:05 PM

The Dude,  Trae Young has somehow lost all of his powers!!! It's seems as if the Big 12 coaches figured him out, at about the midway point of the conference season. I thought Oklahoma would be a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAA tournament about a month ago because of how well Trae Young was playing and all the athleticism and 3-point shooting that they have, now Oklahoma is looking like a team that will get upset(maybe not an upset if they keep losing and they get seeded 7th or 8th) in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament.

Miami is now playing at Notre Dame on ESPN. Miami is another team that has struggled once conference play started. Weren't they ranked in the top 5 when they came to Smith Center in December? 

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the dude2/19/2018 8:05:59 PM

Thomas, very true!

He's gone through a shooting slump too, but he remains incredible to watch. Most fun guy to watch in college since at least Steph. 

Miami is what, an 8 seed now? Kansas ST, Florida, St, Xavier, all IN.  Temple now bubble, but OUT.  Harvard is probably dancing, and have you see the year Rider is having?? They are pretty legit.  Imagine them with Marquise Reed?

thomas2/19/2018 9:45:08 PM

I wasn't aware that Rider is having such a great season(14-2 conference record) until you just mentioned it. I remember Marquise Reed, a local guard who played very well for a mid-major as a freshman, and is now starring at Clemson. I forgot that he attended Rider. His name was brought up on this board when he decided to transfer, but I'm not sure whether he had an interest in GW or if a poster mentioned him because he's from this area and was looking to transfer up. 

Another interesting note is, after Rhode Island lost to St.Bonaventure on Friday night, Vermont had the longest winning streak in the nation(15 or 16 straight wins), but they also ended up losing over the weekend. 

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bo knows2/19/2018 9:55:16 PM

Thomas, Marcquise Reed attended Robert Morris before Clemson, not Rider.

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the dude2/20/2018 12:10:37 AM

Thomas, that poster was me, and I said that looking at the Marcquise Reed stats at Rider, we should go for a guy like Reed (stat stuffer and athlete) over a guy like Sina (catch and shoot Guard) which was cause for uproar 3 years ago.  How dare someone suggest one potential transfer option looks better than another on a thread called "Marquise Reed, transfer"  the outrage!! Glad to see we've maintained that level of outrage when discussing actually signed GW recruits on the site.  =)

Oklahoma and my guy Trae, BLOWN out! yikes.

 

 

thomas2/20/2018 12:54:05 AM

What I'm about to write is funny and a bit unfunny at the same time, but Bo Knows pointed out that Marcquise Reed actually started out at Robert Morris, not Rider. Since The Dude and Bo Knows have blocked each other, it's as if they are speaking over each other. But to tie this all together for everyone, The Dude mentioned Rider for Marquise Reed, I replied to his comment and Bo Knows corrected what both of us wrote.

But onto Marcquise Reed, like I wrote earlier I remember the name being mentioned here, but not the specifics. I forgot that there was some sort of uproar/fight about GW recruiting him, and that it was the same time GW signed/recruited Sina. Did he have an interest in GW? M.Reed is Clemson's best player this year. Robert Morris has had a couple other very good players transfer to BCS schools(including one to Georgetown last season) which really damaged their program.

Is Oklahoma playing themselves into an NIT bid?? I heard that they've now lost 9 of their last 11(or 10 of 12) games!! They have winnable games left against Baylor, Iowa State and Kansas State, but they appear to have lost all of their confidence at this point!! 

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the dude2/20/2018 1:09:53 AM

Thomas, that is too funny.  Robert Morris! Haha.  Yea recall that offseason we were really diving deep into transfer options, I was def the one who was pushing Marcquise Reed and thought that TYPE of player is what GW needed, not a catch and shoot guy, the type who went an entire collegiate career without a single block. 

Reed is predictably an absolute dynamo for Clemson, their best player on what may be their best ever team.  Sina, we commited 3 years of scholarships for 2 seasons to, left GW after 1 subpar season, after quitting on Seton Hall midseason, which was itself after TWICE decomminting as a HS player to college he commited to!  Maybe its best to be leary of guys like that in the future  =)

 

 

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the dude2/20/2018 5:46:00 PM

Good slate. URI tonight among other games

 

thomas2/20/2018 6:15:51 PM

The Dude,  I wanted to clarify what was going on because someone may have read the last 6 entries posted on this thread and been really confused about how you and Bo Knows could be talking to each other and not talking to each other at the same time!!! LOL...They'd be like, Why Is The Dude still saying Rider, when Bo Knows said Reed went to Robert Morris/Why Did Bo Knows Only Correct Thomas.  Did Reed have any interest in GW? Looking at how he's done at Clemson, he would've had a Cavanaugh/ Zeek/Creek type of impact at GW, but I know it's hard for a guy in his position to ignore the bright lights of an ACC school, even an average-below average one like Clemson has been in recent years.

 

Rhode Island at La Salle  7 on CBS SportsNetwork

St.Louis at Dayton  9 on ESPNU

Creighton at Butler  7 on FS1

Rutgers at Ohio State  7 on Big 10 Network

 

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the dude2/20/2018 8:48:29 PM

Thomas, very funny indeed.

I believe I just listed him on a list of trasnfers and said I'd hope we'd be after a guy with his assorted stats. Someone said Sina was much better and I shouldn't "bash" Sina on a thread called "Marcquise Reed transfer."

URI is in a tight game with La Salle! They are locked into the tourney but the type of loss that could hurt their seeding. Butler is winning big, PJ is coming off the bench again, and is lighting it up tonight off the bench.

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the sons of liberty2/20/2018 9:11:24 PM

Anyone watching this Rhody/LaSalle game?

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the dude2/20/2018 9:16:15 PM

SOL. I am.  Helluva game.  Headed to Overtime

 

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the dude2/20/2018 9:32:57 PM

 BJ Johnson has 24 rebounds.  A10 record? Yinka Dare, 1993.

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the sons of liberty2/20/2018 9:38:36 PM

Fun game.  I love basketball.

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gw05092/20/2018 9:39:33 PM

Dr. John had some great exasperation faces in the last few seconds of that OT.

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pj2/20/2018 10:10:27 PM

Jorgensen finishes with 17 points, 5 rebs, 3 asts on 7/11 and 3/4 3PTs in Butler win over Creighton. 

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thomas2/21/2018 3:43:56 PM

VCU at UMass  7

Fordham at Davidson  7

#4 Xavier at Georgetown  6:30 on FS1

#17 Michigan at Penn State  7 on Big 10 Network

Texas at Kansas State  9 on ESPNU

 

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the dude2/21/2018 11:44:20 PM

Kansas St beat Texas, they are going dancing.  20 wins, 9-6 in Big 12.  Shaka's Texas team, on the other hand, 16-12, 6-9, is in major danger of missing the tourney, yet again.  Not exactly what people expected 3 years into the Shaka era at Texas.

tuna can2/22/2018 9:23:00 AM

Don't forget that Texas is missing a key player, Andrew Jones. Oklahoma is missing Young's 3 point shot. After watching those two teams face off in Oklahoma, the Sooners are hurting more. 

thomas2/22/2018 9:38:49 AM

Shaka Smart probably would have been better off staying at VCU because he was starting to bring in BCS-level recruiting classes to VCU when he left. I wouldn't have been surprised if he signed a 1-and-done at VCU eventually. But I understand the money and a big-time institution like Texas was hard for him to pass up, he must have viewed Texas as the perfect opportunity for him after he turned down a bunch of BCS jobs. Right now, he probably regrets leaving VCU because his teams at Texas have been inconsistent, he's had disciplinary problems with a star player and his 1-and-done players haven't been able to elevate the team's level of play. 

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endzone922/22/2018 9:42:42 AM

Did anyone catch this crazy ending to the GMU-St. Joe's game?  Doesn't beat the Carl Elliot shot, but worth a look.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/video?gameId=400989896

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tuna can2/22/2018 10:13:25 AM

Thomas, I think that it is more likely that he fell in love with big scorers and filled his team with scorers and lacked the VCU crop of ball handlers/defenders that he had before without even trying. You are right, can Smart keep Mo at Texas? That's a tough one. 

By the way, Thomas, I look at GW's game last night against Richmond as one of those watershed games. I had been calling months ago to insert Justin into the lineup. I thought it was a great idea as much as it did a lot to improve Jair's efficiency. GW had 4 or 5 big guards that could really cause problems for other teams. The slow pace also did nothing for Bo, even turning him often into a ball handling liability.

These guys now know that they can toss out one of those games if they just raise the energy and focus on D. This is sort of like the last month of the JoeMac/Larsen/Garino freshman year when you saw the realization that they had something. 

What is also important is seeing the player development... also game awareness. MoJo is bringing the group along. This is also important--if you look at the recruits coming in next year, there is need to bring them along. Littles is a physicallly special recruit, but atter watching him struggle against Eric Dixon this season, I know that there is work to do. Just because he is big, and long doesn't mean that he has the strength and engine to play at this level. I am hoping that being schooled by Toro for a month or two will get under his skin. Mezzie also needs to increase his speed--through strength. He has a good toolkit, but also isn't a top shelf recruit. However, both players can eventually plug into the GW team that is growing up now.

MoJo is probably holding his last spot for a proven transfer/senior/or new one time deal. I am a longrange booster of Javi. He is probably another year away after some rough 10 minute games as he figures it out. I am thinking that this group now is looking at 19 wins next year based on the building blocks coming back and coming in.

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thomas2/22/2018 12:10:52 PM

Tuna Can,  I think Shaka Smart's biggest problem is, it's hard to get 4 and 5 star recruits to buy into the "Havoc"/40 Minutes of Hell concept. I know a lot of GW fans thought Shaka Smart's VCU teams fouled on every possession and were somewhat dirty, but everyone would have to admit that his guys always played hard and gave a maximum effort. I'm not sure that is the case with most of his players at Texas. 

I'd say GW's watershed game was the beating they gave VCU last weekend. People can say that this VCU team is terrible or has quit on the season as a way to discredit win, but GW has had a LOT of trouble with VCU since they joined the A-10 and they got blown out at VCU earlier in the year, so for GW to turn the tables on them the way they did was very impressive to me. VCU is still tied for 4th place in the A-10, so people shouldn't act like they are 3-12 and in last place.  Also, winning multiple conference games in blowout fashion(like GW has been doing of late) is a great accomplishment, no matter how terrible you think the opposition is. 

I don't think Mazulla was ready to play a lot of minutes earlier in the year. For the most part, he would look lost when he entered games, but it's obvious that he's listened to the coaches and really improved his game during the course of the season, and now Mazulla looks like a good building block for the future(along with Nolan). It's good that Mojo allowed Mazulla to develop and didn't just bury him on the bench. He's done the same for Maceo Jack to a lesser extent. A lot of times when a freshman looks scared of the "bright lights" early in the year, a coach will just keep him on the bench for the entire season. 

About the recruits, Shandon Brown and Potter look to be the one ready to make an immediate impact next year. D.J.Williams is intriguing because he has the tools(6-7 or 6-8, athletic, decent ball-handler and 3-point shooter) to play multiple positions. His skillset indicates that he can be a Do-It-All Swingman Forward. I mean, if D.J.Williams plays up to his potential/high school billing, he could be a hell of a player for GW. We also need to remember that the Transfer Market is GW's friend!!! Especially, if the new transfer rule is passed and guys don't have to sit out for a year. We have a lot of D.C./Maryland/Virginia players who may want to come home and play in front of their loved ones at Smith Center!! 

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tuna can2/22/2018 3:57:11 PM

I think that we are on the same page, Thomas. I am sensing that the additions to the backcourt will see MoJo only elevating the tempo and pressure. MoJo's comment about doing film work and studying spacing is huge. He also said that he got on the team for missing defensive changes and not recognizing quick enough. These are all the things that we weren't seeing earlier. 

With Nolan's toolset on the offensive end and a coach's son in Jack along with Mazzulla who really is like a coach on the floor... I watcheed games that he had in HS where he was basically directing action for his team all of the time.

Finally, I wouldn't underestimate the size factor at 1 through 3. There was a defensive play in the VCU game where Mazzulla rotated over to double Tillman and basically through him back down onto the court by getting his hands on the ball as Tillman tried to elevate. That's something that Garino might have done.

I think we agree that MoJo will be looking for an instant starter with the final spot. There are going to be a number of coaches hitting the bricks this year (as usual) so someone may want to head to DC with the GW track record for guys finishing up their career with the Colonials. I am hoping that this turns the transfer tide.

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bm2/22/2018 4:00:35 PM

Strong finish will help a lot with adding a quality instant starter (and limiting transfers).

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the dude2/22/2018 9:01:53 PM

Thomas, agree about Shaka.

Has any team underachived this year as much as Northwestern?

Alonso Trier, PED TEST. AGAIN.  Ineligible

dmvpiranha2/22/2018 10:45:34 PM

I'd say Minnesota has underachieved probably even more than Northwestern. They are currently 4-13 in conference - they started the season ranked 15th.

In other game action tonight, Delaware managed to blow a 34 point lead, eventually falling on the road against one of the worst teams in their conference, Drexel (though to be fair, the Blue Hens and James Madison might be arguably worse). Darian scored 6 points (3-7 FG, 0-3 3-pt, 0-1 FT) for Delaware, who was leading 56-29 at halftime. The 34 point comeback for Drexel is the largest in college basketball history.  

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the dude2/23/2018 12:59:35 AM

DMV, good call, Minnesota even more so. And what a down year for the Big 10 huh??

Wow, that's #1 in history?  Might have guessed some game from the UNLV, Loyola-Marymount 80s where the scores were like 118-113 routinely.

 

the mv2/23/2018 9:53:06 AM

Arizona is appealing the Trier suspension.  Claiming that the drug test revealed the same drug he was already suspended for was still in his system, which is what the test caught.  Incredibly huge loss should he be finished for the season.

thomas2/23/2018 12:14:36 PM

At least Minnesota lost 2 of their better players to a suspension and another to an injury(I believe). Northwestern pretty much returned the exact same team that won an NCAA tournament game last year and they've gotten worse somehow. Northwestern blew a 27-point lead at home against Michigan State over the weekend, so they can feel better that Delaware topped their choke job a few days later!!

Alonzo Trier was suspended last season too, I forgot whether it was for recieving improper benefits or drugs. He was a highly touted player in high school who went to multiple high schools across the country, including here locally at a basketball-factory school(Montrose Christian??). It seems as if Trier was led by Greedy adults who viewed him as their meal ticket, and they may have led him down the wrong path.

 

Dayton at #18 Rhode Island   7 on ESPN2

Harvard at Princeton  7 on ESPNU

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the dude2/23/2018 4:14:33 PM

Thomas, I am going to stick to my initial assessment, haha. Northwestern, given the circumstances, far greater dissapointment.  The Trier suspesion last year, was also for a PED.  Kind of amazing, I can't recall anyone else all year testing positive.

Rhode Island vs Dayton, end of the year, type of game you'd expect for A10 supremacy, but Archie Miller did not leave a well stocked cupboad for his successor (just as Tom Crean, after being fired, didn't leave much at Indiana for Archie)  He had his best wave of recruits, and never really replaced them.  Sounds familiar.  If Hurley bolts after this season, his successor has a lot of talent to work with.  Really hope Hurley sticks around, for the strength of the A10.

the dude2/23/2018 4:20:45 PM

Rhode Island (14-0 at home and winners of 17 of their last 18) goes for the Atlantic 10 regular season title tonight at home vs. Dayton.

thomas2/23/2018 4:41:42 PM

The Dude,  I actually thought about Rhode Island next year and they are going to lose a LOT of talent(E.C.Matthews, Jarvis Garrett, Jared Terrell. Stan Robinson), they'll still have Dowtin who could elevate his game to 1st Team All A-10/Player of The Year status next season, but I'm not sure how they can replace the production of those 4 guys. Dayton had a similar haul of seniors graduate last year, but Archie always lost great players and still had elite teams, until this year. I don't know much about Rhode Island's recruits(except a local forward who should be real good), maybe they have multiple studs coming in next year who will make an immediate impact or he'll have guys who don't play much become great players(like Tony Bennett's UVA teams do). I'm thinking Hurley may decide to jump ship after this season. Ole Miss and Pittsburgh will be looking for coaches next year, and if today's Yahoo bombshell report about all these colleges paying basketball players, we could see several BCS job openings. But you could be right, Hurley may have Rhode Island in a "We Don't Rebuild, We Reload" situation and they will still be strong next year. 

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the dude2/23/2018 4:54:36 PM

Thomas, URI is so deep, so talented, Dowtin and Fats Russell is going to be a fantastic backcourt, its an embarrssment of riches that they currently have those guys AND EC, Jarvis Garrett and Jared Terrell.  

I could see Hurley waiting for only a Blue Blood job. Can't see him leaving for some job like Wake Forest.  I think he's too smart for that, is not in any grand rush.  Consider how long Daddy Hurley stayed coaching the same HS team, how many offers he must have turned down over the years.  

thomas2/23/2018 5:12:12 PM

The Dude,  I'm not disagreeing with that, just having Fats Russell(with a year under his belt and an expanded role) and Dowtin may be enough to keep Rhode Island among the elite in the A-10 next year. Also, I'm not going to ignore that Hurley may have 2 or 3 minor contributors on this year's team becoming great players next year. Hurley is being very selective about what BCS job he's going to take as you wrote, just like Archie Miller and Shaka Smart did before him, so I give him credit for that. It's good that the elite coaches in the A-10 aren't just settling for the first BCS team that throws money at them. I just threw out Ole Miss and Pittsburgh because those are the jobs that will be open next year, I don't think Hurley will even consider mediocre schools like that.

the dude2/23/2018 7:32:31 PM

Thomas, we agree.  I am watching this game tonight, and thinking, something I have all season, Fats Russell will be the best of the bunch, when its all said and done.

URI has an exceptional class coming in too.   

the dude2/24/2018 1:57:18 AM

Rhode Island pounds Dayton, to clinch the A10 Title.

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dmvpiranha2/24/2018 4:58:33 PM

UVA held Pittsburgh to seven points in the first half on the Panthers' Senior Day. Ouch.

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thomas2/24/2018 5:55:49 PM

DMVPiranha, thanks for reminding me of this game, I was meaning to mention Pittsburgh on this thread but never got around to it. Pittsburgh shot 1-22 in the first half, and was down 30-7 at the half!!! By the way, the Terps were probably worse than that in the 1st half at home against Michigan. I know some of you saw that mess!!

Pittsburgh will go 0-18 in the ACC this year and will set a school record for losses. You have 2 fall from graces here with Pittsburgh basketball and Kevin Stallings. A few years ago, K.Stallings had Vanderbilt as an upper-echelon SEC team(I recall how tough it was for opposing teams to play at Vanderbilt) and now he's about to go 0-18 in the ACC!! I'll give credit to Cory Alexander for trying to paint a positive picture of Pittsburgh's situation(the return of Ryan Luther and the addition of Pervis Ellison's son who transferred  in from St.John's, isn't nearly enough to change things next year), but unless they can bring in a coach who can pay  5-star recruits to sign with them, it's going to take at least 3 years for them to even be respectable.

Maybe Pittsburgh can bring in their former point guard great Sean Miller after Arizona fires him!! He'll be able to work for free for a couple years since he SUCKERED Arizona to give him a clause that allows him to get 10+ million dollars if he gets fired for cause. 

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the dude2/24/2018 6:35:01 PM

Thomas, lol.

gw05092/24/2018 7:51:42 PM

UMass bails out Mason and fouls on a last second three.  Game heading to OT.

bc2/24/2018 7:51:45 PM

UMass and Mason just went into overtime.  Damn stupid foul on UMass with 1 second remaining and UMass up 3.   G. Mason player makes all 3 FTs.

gw05092/24/2018 8:04:29 PM

Damn, UMass can't pull it out in OT.  Gives up a full court drive.

dmvpiranha2/25/2018 4:32:50 PM

Houston is up 92-40 on East Carolina with seven minutes to go after leading 62-13 in the first half. The Pirates must be really good at football to be in the AAC because their basketball team isn't any good.

thomas2/25/2018 6:16:13 PM

DMVPirahna, thanks AGAIN for bringing up this game because East Carolina's coaching situation is very interesting. East Carolina's head coach is Jeff Lebo, some of you may remember and/or know that he was a pretty good guard at North Carolina in the mid to late 1980's. He's been the coach at East Carolina for 10+ years and has never made the NCAA tournament(I don't think they've ever came close to making the NCAA tourney), yet he still has a job. East Carolina basketball must have a small and uninterested fanbase if the school feels comfortable keeping a coach that long who never wins!! 

I don't think East Carolina football or the AAC football conference has been that good since they joined up together. It looks like the entire concept of the AAC(for football and basketball) was a total disaster. Adding Wichita State gave a boost to basketball, but the other big-name programs who joined(UConn, Temple, Memphis) have pretty much struggled or failed to live up to previous levels of greatness. 

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the dude2/25/2018 7:11:38 PM

62-13 in the first half..... 

WOW

the dude2/25/2018 7:12:04 PM

Did Phi Slamma Jamma "walk through that door?"

the dude2/25/2018 7:21:54 PM

Thomas, UCONN is 13-16.  Pains me to ask as a guy who likes them and him, but does Kevin Ollie survive this? 

Temple pounded UCF by 20 today.  They've played their way from the NCAA tourney, to in danger of being off the bubble. Their resume, such a good SOS, and with some huge OOC wins, is still intriguing if they roll off 3-4 straight wins.

 

brianpaul2/25/2018 7:33:55 PM

Connecticut folks think the men should win like the women at Yukon.   They have been on Ollie's ass since he won the big game, really. They are not all that savvy, they just want what they want

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the dude2/25/2018 8:35:01 PM

BP, something in between a National Title contender, and where they are at now though, is going to be a must for a UConn Coach.  For sure, as Thomas has noted in the past, Ollie has had all sorts of injury bad breaks along the way.

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