scouts2/12/2018 1:10:49 PM
a poster has no name2/12/2018 1:14:26 PM
Maybe you should check out a few other scouting websites (I find that ESPN's is hardly ever updated anymore).
dave2/12/2018 3:03:23 PM
Interesting to see Duquesne, VCU, and Dayton landing 4-star recruits. All 3 of those teams have first year coaches. Even Fordham landed a 4-star point guard. It's going to be tough to compete next season unless some major changes are made.
80-84: High-major minus prospect (4 stars)
Player has the potential to significantly contribute to a high-major program over four years.
edward2/12/2018 5:22:16 PM
How does Duquesne land the #18 center in the country (a 4-star recruit) and two 3-stars and we land two 2-stars and a NR recruit despite being located in the HS basketball capital of the world?
a10talk2/12/2018 5:55:05 PM
The Colonials were the most promising of the four teams, but things just haven’t been going there way as of late. Losing 5 of their last 6 games, they just can’t get on the right side of the win-loss column. Sitting in dead last right now, this is definitely not where they expected to be this season. The bright spot, of course, has been the incredible play of Yuta Watanabe, who leads the team in points and rebounds this year. But, what really has held them back this year has been there inability to win on the road. They are 0-8 on the road this season, losing said games by an average of 17.8 ppg.
I wanted to end with the Rams, just because of how interesting their past two weeks have been. This was a team who only scored 41 points on Duquesne in their first meeting, and then on Saturday, without Chartouny, they put up 80 points. They have won 3 of there last 4, and it looks like they are starting to gel. Watching them in warmups, they seem to have a certain calmness around them, and it showed in the game on Saturday. They set up the gameplan, and they executed it better than they ever could’ve asked for. The Rams are not going to be flashy, that’s just not their style. But, as the A-10 is beginning to notice, they are not only much improved, but on a roll, and that can be a deadly combination.
1. Rhode Island Rams (AVG: 1.00)
2. St. Bonaventure Bonnies (AVG: 2.20)
3. Davidson Wildcats (AVG: 2.87)
4. VCU Rams (AVG: 4.43)
5. Richmond Spiders (AVG: 4.67)
6. Saint Louis Billikens (AVG: 5.93)
7. Dayton Flyers (AVG: 7.40)
8. Duquesne Dukes (AVG: 7.93)
9. Saint Joseph’s Hawks (AVG: 9.00)
10. La Salle Explorers (AVG: 10.47)
11. George Mason Patriots (AVG: 10.93)
12. Massachusetts Minutemen (AVG: 12.07)
13. Fordham Rams (AVG: 13.00)
14. George Washington Colonials (AVG: 13.47)
the dude2/12/2018 6:07:58 PM
Our incoming recruits for next year will prove to be the best in the A-10 and Mojo will be coach of the year. You heard it from me first.
bigfan2/12/2018 6:14:53 PM
Well, Duquesne has a long experienced college coach who started in high shool with LeBron James. So that would help explain the discrepancy noted
Also good to note that Dambrot, the Duquesne coach, was available at the time we were seeking a permanent coach. But neither he nor anyone at all was interviewed.
And sorry, Dambrot likely would be glad to consider the better GW job, despite any Duqesne ties. If not, numerous other experienced head coaches would have jumped at the chance.
Beyond recruiting, you saw what Dambrot has done with the players he inherited, with a rare and humiliating sweep of us.
a poster has no name2/12/2018 6:20:51 PM
That same Duquesne center is ranked almost 200 spots lower than Marcus Littles on 247. Who knows which rating system is better, but better to do some research before making a sweeping generalization.
chet2/12/2018 6:28:39 PM
Lets all keep up the conversations not relevant to the current sunken ship so nobody starts a GW vs UMASS thread and we have to come back to reality.
neil2/12/2018 6:32:45 PM
go brookyn dodgers. Next year was always the best
edward2/12/2018 6:35:05 PM
Gavin Bizeau is averaging 22 points/12 rebounds/3 blocks (#1 on his team in all categories).
Marcus Littles is averaging 10 points/8 rebounds/0.7 blocks (#4 scorer on his team).
neil2/12/2018 6:36:58 PM
Yuta gone. Glad we have new players not highly rated.
fire the staff
porter712/12/2018 6:58:21 PM
Bigfan - you are actually incorrect on Dambrot. He didn't start in high school with LeBron. He actually was a college coach at Central Michigan. He got fired after a couple years for dropping a N-Bomb in a pregame speech. He was blackballed from coaching because of it for a few years and was forced to work at a community center (hmm, this all sounds vaguely familiar) before getting a second chance at St. Vincents. He's a fascinating story. I attached an article on him for those interested.
a poster has no name2/12/2018 7:14:03 PM
Fair enough! Although I imagine playing on a top philly school, Littles is probably going up against (and playing alongside) better talent than Bizeau in Plainfield, Indiana. I also think I saw someone tweet out that Littles' school doesn't really run the offense through him (and that maybe they should). This might help explain a bit about why his numbers aren't gaudy.
Again, not saying that Bizeau is bad, or even that Littles is better. Just that we should take the rankings of a website that thinks Terry Nolan still plays for UT Chattanooga with a grain of salt.
a poster has no name2/12/2018 7:18:56 PM
(For clarification, I'm referring to the ESPN recruiting section only, not the site as a whole)
dave2/12/2018 7:51:39 PM
Geez, even LaSalle and UMass each landed two 3-star recruits. Does this mean we're going to finish in last place again?
bobo2/12/2018 8:22:24 PM
Fordham's got to be feeling good about their future at this point.
thinker2/12/2018 8:43:37 PM
Fordham has perhaps the worst facilities in division I. If any of their recruits are good, they'll likely transfer out.
gw692/12/2018 8:54:10 PM
DAVE--I use your posts to go to sleep.Same thing over and over again.
You are a wonder.Congrats on your tenacity.
dave2/13/2018 7:36:46 AM
Fordham, UMass, LaSalle, St. Joe's, Duquesne... almost every team in the A10 has out-recruited us. And definitely every coach has outcoached us, so what's there to be optimistic about for next season aside from hopefully a new coach?
gw692/13/2018 7:57:37 AM
Like I said.
dominic2/13/2018 7:58:54 AM
A walking, squawking snooze button.
bobo2/13/2018 8:40:42 AM
In fairness to MoJo, Davidson has been able to perform well consistently with mostly 2 start recruits. It could be their coach, Bob McKillop, gets the most of the players with development, scheme and game planning. I think all those things still matter in college basketball.
bobo2/13/2018 9:01:12 AM
Spot the 3 -4 star recruits for Davidson: http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/davidson
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 9:07:13 AM
Are we seriously back to player ratings. You guys have too much time on your hands. Most of our players coming in look solid - watch video. I have to repeat a nauseum - Pato 2 stars - NBA level player. I can only do one example without throwing up on scout (if your gonna post do some actual research). For fun I looked at other ranking.
NEXT YEAR's SHIT SQUAD!!!!
DJ Williams - 4 Star (247) Top 25 position player
Mezzie - 3 Star (247) Cuse was looking at him, Offers from Maryland, Indiana, V tech, and #1 RI
Brown - 3 Star (247) Offers from Umass, Oklahoma State
Littles - 4 Star (Rivals) Offers from Miami, Penn State
Yeah the next year we should suck more!
Plus we return:
Bolden 2.7 Stars
Toro 2.7 Stars
Nolan 3 star
For all the basketball analysts on this site: 2 MAJOR PROBLEMS THIS YEAR
1. Short Bench - I dont know how we expect to play 40 min with 6 players - Killed Us!
2. Young Team - Enough said.
SCOUT GO START ANOTHER BULLSHIT THREAD BRO!
bobo2/13/2018 9:18:38 AM
So what's your expectations for next year's team, Greenpoint? Top 100 team (very low bar)? Top 150 team (even lower bar)? Top 200 team (this team not there yet)?
My guess is you won't committ to one because you really don't have any confidence that MoJo can significantly improve the team next year. Maybe some vauge hope that "we get more tallent" in for next year but nothing that anybody can verify or hold you to, bro.
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 9:44:28 AM
Bobo it is not my job to predict. All of these wasted posts of how mojo sucks is depressing. Are we colonial fans or are we here to bitch and moan about the season? I for one support our team win or lose. Ask my wife, I am a huge fan - I watch every game if available and I live in NYC. We are not a blue chip program so expectations of getting 4 star athletes on a regular is out of the question. Our team is rebuilding and mojo is bringing in kids that are not just good athletes, but good character kids that care about their education. I spoke to Mojo when he can to a NYC event and I was very impressed by his thought process. He is very well spoken and he is not as clueless as some people on this board think. He has a plan and he is trying to make it happen. BTW he is a GW graduate. Rebuilding a program is no easy feat, we are not a major powerhouse basketball program where kids are beating down our door. We are a top academic university that has a promising program in a solid conference, that is our pitch. I think we will be significantly better than this year. I assume we will hover around 100-150. Bobo - I would like us to win our league title first before I commit to us becoming top 50, 100, or 200. We are young and we must grow together. If and when we develop chemistry we can be a serious threat to any team (including the top 25).
bobo2/13/2018 10:34:00 AM
I'm not looking for predictions Greenpoint. I'm asking to see if you or other Mojo supporters have any bare minimum expectations on the team next year for Mojo to be given a 4th season? Any requirements at all?
a poster has no name2/13/2018 10:41:22 AM
I'll bite. With all the roster turnover and losing a professional caliber player in Yuta, I'd be surprised if we break the top 100. However I'd be fine if we hung around 150, saw real improvements from our returning players, and real promise from the new players brought in. I'd also like to see more of a scheme and further development from Mojo.
So to summarize:
-Mid A10 finish, 100-150ish rank
-Players are developing in a positive way
-Recruits and transfers brought in include more hits than misses
-Better scheming and strategy from Mojo
I think if these are achieved he deserves a 4th year, given all that has happened.
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 10:53:50 AM
Bobo you like finite answers i see lol. You only see in black or white? Yea my expectation for the team is to do better than the last year..but how can I start the clock when he doesnt even have a full squad? We have 3-4 kids on the bench that I feel may be not at the D1 level or at least A10 level. Bobo you ever play a sport competively? I have. You cannot predict seasons because many factors come into play. Kids transfer, get hurt, have growing pains. If we were Duke I would tell you 20 wins every year. Happy?
Bolden, Nolan, Yuta, Steeves, Bo, Toro battle tested.
Mazzulla and Javy look promising.
Like I said we have 6 guys, Ill talk to you when we have a bench.
Next year i will start the clock, if we do not slighlty improve year after year Ill prob call for some new assistants because they are the ones that do most of the scouting and recruiting. I like that our coaching staff has devoted time to the DMV kids. So far I like the home cooking T Nolan is a special player.
the mv2/13/2018 12:14:14 PM
As has been said here many times, these recruiting services do a credible job with the top 20-50 players in the country. They show up at the big showcases and listen to who is generating the most buzz. There are still opportunities to get things wrong but you'll typically find a more predictable hit rate with these top players. Then, there's seemingly everyone else. There are not enough talent evaluators or perhaps enough commensurate interest in the next group of 500 prospects to do an accurate job in determining who should be three vs two stars, or whether #127 is truly better than #158. These determinations are often made via personal connections, and whether players play or do not play AAU or partake in other camps, etc.
To throw up a list like this and conclude that MoJo can't recruit because his guys aren't as highly ranked as Duquesne's guys is just stupid.
MoJo's age, energy, and personality should actually work to his advantage in the recruiting world. I'm far more concerned about the actual development and coaching his players are receiving once they are here.
3-4 kids at the end of the bench who are not A10 caliber? Maybe not ideal, but more than OK. We're not regularly playing 13 guys, ever. Our goal every year ought to be to have 7 guys good enough to be A10 quality starters, plus another 2 or 3 who can be serviceable role players off the bench. That's why all of the criticism about end-of-bench guys who transferred down is overblown nonsense.
bobo2/13/2018 12:15:07 PM
I played sports competitively and coach now. I also believe in production expectations and live by them daily.
You said that if you dont see slight improvement after next year you will call for a some changes in the assistant coaching staff. That's your opinion but I think you are being WAY to generous with MoJo, probably because you like the guy. Not good enough for me.
We need to have standards. Liking a guy because he spoke well at an alumni gathering isn't a good enough reason to keep a guy who
1. Never been a head coach previously
2. Has a team that is not performing up to any reasonable standard
3. Not showing any significant improvement
And why just fire the assistant coaches? Doesn't GW have just as meaningful commitment to them too? No, don't just shuffle the chairs...find a better head coach than the one GW currently has employed.
dominic2/13/2018 12:34:04 PM
Change the thread title: MOJO MUST GO! How's that, Bo?
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 1:06:45 PM
Bobo - ok you get rid mojo, then what? Does another shit show come about and we wait and see if the new coach can pull it all together in 2-3 years? Is that your solution? I’m not gonna say that Mojo has no weaknesses, but are we top destination for a highly saught after coach? I think that is arguable, but I’m leaning to no. I actually like Mojo for few reasons: 1. I do like his positive energy 2. I am pleased with the class he is bringing in. 3. His players like playing for him. 4. I’m gonna have to say I like his mentor as his silent basketball advisor.
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 2:12:11 PM
I agree with MV's analysis. solid post.
greenpointetheimposter2/13/2018 2:50:59 PM
Mezzie didn't have those offers. All your info is b.s. Interest and offers are not the same. Your b.s. looks good but it is fiction. Nolan had low A10 offers at best but he is a decent A10 player. Mezzie's offers from MD and the Hoosiers disappeared a year ago. Stop with the Fake News minions.
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 3:28:45 PM
You are right Greenpoint the imposter (troll) I just made up stuff from the 247 website because I feel like making everyone feel better. Why dont you go back to the hole you crawled out of. No shortage of fools on this site!
for our troll minion2/13/2018 3:32:37 PM
greenpointtheimpioster2/13/2018 4:33:54 PM
You fool.He would never have come here if he had offers from Maryland or Indiana. Those were off the table a year ago. My nephew plays at Prep and it is no secret his offers were off the table. Good kid with potential but lets not pretend we beat out major programs for him.
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 6:36:38 PM
your right I don’t want to argue with someone who’s brothers nephew cousin’s brother plays high school ball lol. Maybe he realized he would start how about that fool’s fool fool who can’t use his own name because he is so real and not a fake minions minion. Grow up you sound like an 8th grader.
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 6:40:56 PM
Here is an idea fake minion why don’t you use your finger pointing and contact 247 because obviously your taking this very personal. Lol I just cant fathom how stupid people are over the fact that I posted he had an offer. He did have an offer even if they pulled it. Stay in school kids or you will end up like my friend fake greenpoint minion
bo knows2/13/2018 6:44:54 PM
The truth is that Mezie once had those offers (MD and Indiana) but those were off the table by time it was commit time. What was on the table were URI, UMass, Towson, ODU, Bucknell, Rutgers, and St. Jospeh's. Maybe not Maryland or Indiana but not bad either. That's ok for me and GW. And the reason some of the higher schools fell off was because Mezie did not show well in April plus there was a coaching change at Indiana.
Mezie is a good recruit for GW but let's not make him out to be a HM recruit that GW got away from MD or Indiana.
greenpoint ny2/13/2018 7:22:29 PM
Bo I never said he is a blue chip all I said was he had an offer. That is good enough for me. Fake minion took it to the next level. If he took his anxiety pills he would of read that I don’t value any of the rankings bullshit. I am thrilled he was even noticed by those programs. I only posted what some scouting sites posted. Are they accurate, who the fuck knows. The numbers are only as good as the source. Obviously I don’t have a cousin who has a friend that had math class with the dude like fake minion. Pulled or not they showed interest and it’s our gain.