Changes for GW Staff?
maac
 5/18/2018 1:15:08 PM      Replies: 75

maac5/13/2018 7:50:46 PM

Heard a current assistant under serious consideration for Siena assistant spot. Might be done soon.

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florida colonial5/13/2018 7:57:09 PM

If its true its pretty obvious who it would be

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dmvpiranha5/13/2018 9:17:41 PM

That's something that has circulated around here since the season ended (not specifically to Siena but in general). Apart from being closer to where he is from (and having played there), I don't see how it's anything but a step down to just move to another assistant position. Not to take anything away from Siena which has been consistently one of the better programs in the MAAC (minus last year). Christian was a good hire in my book and will get the program back to the top in a relatively short period of time. 

If this is true (it will probably happen sooner or later - I'm still surprised somewhat the coaching staff has remained intact up to this point), that would be a big blow to our already lack of recruiting connections - as it is we only really have strong connections in the DC and upstate NY areas. Without the Albany City Rocks, we'd have just local and that's not sustainable long term as all D1 programs know DC is a basketball hotbed.

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thinker5/13/2018 10:37:42 PM

A bunch of good points, DMV.

I think it makes a ton of sense for any assistant at GW to move on and close the old chapter. He might also be of greater value to a place like Siena because his local contacts might be easier to turn into middle levels local recruits. The reality is that the majority of recruits across sports end up somewhere close to home.

And assistants move around a lot and not always up in rank each time. The best route of success for an assistant is recruiting well. If you can go to a school where YOU can recruit better, you should go. Even when the other school might be lateral or even a little lower.

And while we might lose a connection to upstate NY, we would replace him. That person would presumably have connections somewhere.

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the other mg5/13/2018 11:11:18 PM

If the rumor is true, who are some of the candidates we should consider?  A hot HS head coach? Someone with more experience, who might be able to step up if MoJo disappoints next season? Not sure how attractive this job would be, with the HC presumably being watched so closely.  Does anybody who is close to the program have names?

thinker5/14/2018 1:14:04 AM

There are about 340 DI teams, each with 3 assistants. That makes a little over 1000 assistant positions in the entire country. Whatever one thinks of GW, it clearly lies at least in the top half, if not third of those programs in terms of level of school, resources for the program, and desirability of living in the city the school is in, etc. So I think a GW position if it came open would be pretty covetted.

But I would wait to see if anyone leaves before trying to fill his spot - who knows whether anyone actually leaves.

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the mv5/14/2018 12:13:21 PM

I would call into question just how coveted a position at this program is right now.  Agree with Thinker's logic under normal circumstances but it's hard to conclude that things are back to normal with this program right now.  A potential new assistant who would consider employment with GW men's basketball right now would have to factor the following:

A head coach was removed months after leading the team to an NIT Championship.

Since then, the team's on-court performance has spiraled downward over the past two seasons.  These teams were led by two professional-caliber players, who do not appear to have been adequately replaced as of yet.

The former Athletic Director, who was at war with the former head coach, is now also gone, calling into question (by some) whether this head coach, who has received a settlement from the school, should have been relieved of his duties to begin with.

The current head coach was hired and subsequently, his contract extended without any prior head coaching credentials and without having undergone a search outside of his two assistant coach colleagues also being interviewed for the Interim Head Coaching position.

The current athletic director was also recently hired without the school undergoing a national search.  She has also expressed her dismay over the program's recent lack of success, and has suggested that there is pressure on all involved for real improvement.

At least one player has been attributed to leaving the program over in-fighting among the current coaching staff.

So unfortunately, I don't believe that an Assistant's position at this point in time would be quite so coveted should an opening arise.  Might be a bump in pay and prestige for some out there, but also filled with various warning signs as well.

 

 

 

 

 

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gw695/14/2018 12:41:16 PM

Great job dredging up old stuff--bravo!! Having said that I agree that this history might effect the choice of GW ---a little 

bit.---but not much.We are on the "other side" of the crisis for most of us and most candidates will figure that out.

Coach in place-new AD.- LeBlanc.At this point "normal" crap can upend this program.Welcome to the wide world of sports.

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tuna can5/14/2018 1:25:05 PM

Good  posts, Thinker. Like the old days on GW Hoops.

Is JoeMac to green still to consider? I understand that we are looking at the recruiting needs. At this point, do you think that we may take a crazy flyer on Joe?

the mv5/14/2018 1:27:08 PM

Hard to consider this "dredging up" anything when it's entirely germane to the discussion.  I suppose we will know the correct answer to this should an assistant leave and a replacement comes in.  It should be obvious to most that MoJo could really use an experienced "game manager"to assist him.  A former head coach with solid credentials would be ideal.  Not at all unlike when KH added Phil Rowe to his staff.  Rowe hadn't set the world on fire at UNH but he at least brought 6 years of head coaching experience to the position.  So if MoJo is to hire a new assistant and it's someone along these lines, I would have to agree with you.  

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the mv5/14/2018 1:32:21 PM

Tuna, while I'd be very happy for Joe if he were promoted, I'm not sure this would solve many problems.  I'd rather see someone heavy on game experience or a superstar recruiter.  Joe could eventually become either or both of these things, but at this stage, I'd rather back a more proven coach.

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sienasaint5/14/2018 2:12:23 PM

He has no shot at a spot on Jamion's staff since he and ML are friends and I am sure ML was asked his thoughts. He even has his daddy trying to buy him a spot on the staff. He has been begging for jobs for the last 12 months to no avail. Word is out on what he did to his former boss and current coworkers to try to get interim tag. His future is bleak.

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facts5/14/2018 2:52:15 PM

Mike, Go back to working the desk at the Bowie gym. Siena made a great hire.

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danjsport5/14/2018 3:25:47 PM

If true, I agree with MV (to an extent) that this is a tough gig to come into for an assistant.  The "past" is still sitting on the sidelines, with Mojo and Hajj.  While there's a new president and a new AD, it's hard to believe that the program is "stable." And working for a coach who could be in his last year is hardly job security.  If there is a new hire to be made, I'd imagine Mojo would prefer "game manager" to "great recruiter" again based on the logic that he needs to succeed this year and a "great recruiter" is not going to bring him that success immediately.  I could go either way--but I'd definitely prefer one or the other, rather than pushing Joe up the ranks.  The team could use some new blood.    

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thinker5/14/2018 9:54:06 PM

MV,

Being an assistant at GW would be an excellent job for most coaches. Your list of indicators why it wouldn't be - I'd bet that there is a similar or longer list at most of the bottom half or bottom two thirds of DI schools. MANY assistants are essentially nomads, roaming from camp to camp looking for a steady sustenance.

Even given your list above (I don't necessarily accept all items on the list as being an obstacle to an assistant coach), I would say that the vast majority of schools fired a coach recently or could do so in the near future - after a bad year or whatever. MoJo's predecessor got fired two years ago and he could get fired in the future - maybe after next year. The fact is that the entire profession is built on extremely tenuous pillars. Mind you a coach isn't going to leave a great situation to come to GW - why would he? But you have to figure there are MANY coaches, for whom GW would actually be a less shitty circumstance than they are in now. There are a lot of crappy schools in crappy towns that pay crappy wages with unrealistic expectations. GW is in one of the best major market cities to recruit AND live in. GW is academically a top tier school (yes I get that it's not Ivy League) that offers many opportunities to recruits that most schools can't. Players like Mikic, Mitola, Steeves came or stayed at GW because of it's great graduate programs. If you are recruiter, academics, career, mid-major league exposure, great city, etc. is a lot easier to sell to a recruit than it is to sell (look at any list of smaller schools in smaller leagues in smaller towns).

When I was looking for a job on Capitol Hill, I might hear that there is an opening in so-and-so's office and the person would tell me "don't work for that member - they're a real dick." Another office might be looking for a person to handle agriculture issues when I wanted to work on foreign policy issues. When you need a job, you tell yourself "If I get it, I'll turn things into something positive for myself." There will be plenty of people who would love to coach at GW.

Now that doesn't mean that GW would be as good as a school to be an assistant at as schools in major conferences and lots of mid-majors. But overall, most programs are poorer in finances, have poorer academics, in less desirable places to live, etc.

As far as JoeMac getting promoted, I thought he already was an assistant with recruiting powers. If someone leaves, some new assistant wil have to be hired.

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dmvpiranha5/14/2018 11:54:26 PM

Good post Thinker, and that's exactly why I think the recruiting should be a lot better with more effort. I would say that GW has arguably the best location of any school in the A10, which should be a big draw when recruiting nationally and internationally. When Mojo became head coach, I expected us to recruit somewhat heavily in Canada (tons of talent there) but that hasn't really happened which is disappointing. It would be nice to have an international scout. Obviously, the DC area should be first priority (Team Takeover has a 12-0 record in 17U Nike EYBL, Boo Williams is another team to look at in Virginia). I'm encouraged that we've been able to once again land local players of late. Then, we should focus on the major metro areas on the east coast (NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami), as well as other areas in the midwest like Chicago and Detroit and in the south like Dallas/Houston. The further west you go as you get to the west coast might be a harder sell, but I think GW is a unique situation again being in the heart of DC that can win some of those battles if we try. 

Of course it's not possible to hit all these metros, but the more the better. The problem with having contacts in only a couple areas/programs is that if you strike out on the better players, you are forced to scramble and pick players from the same area that may not be a good fit for the A10 (how many City Rocks players have actually come to GW? I've felt like we've struck out on some of the better ones the past few years). This can all be done with having relatively strong academic standards (even though our prestige has dipped a bit - academics should still be a selling point as evidenced by the recent Ivy grad transfers). Even though usually one of the assistant coaches does more of the recruiting than the others, having three to cover different areas should make this slightly more possible.

In terms of assistants, I think it would be beneficial to have one assistant who has spent at least some previous time at a power conference school in the future. In terms of previous experience, Carm was an assistant at Boston U/Fairfield, Hajj was at Vermont, and this is the first assistant coaching gig for Chris (at least from what I'm aware of). All those schools are decent mid-majors at best. Across the board there are signs that the program doesn't really care that much to win but I want them to prove me wrong. Not sure if the current staff is the answer, but I have no doubt that with some continuity GW can be a consistently good program (top 100 or just outside of it).     

bigfan5/15/2018 12:45:40 AM

The actual scenario lies probably halfway: we won't be as attractive at all as we were with an experienced, older head coach, but there are still people looking for jobs who need them and those looking to move up. Not a lot of chance to move up under a 31 or 32 year-old coach and may be wary of what we did to ML and by extension, the assistants, or what the assistants did. Allegedly, one turned on people. Perhaps Siena Saint can explain more about what he is saying about this assistant.

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brianpaul5/15/2018 1:09:18 AM

Nobody did anything to ML. Not unless you believe its a rational act for a university that has won nothing to fire a coach who was successful enough to just have won a championship: the school's first. 

ML committed professional suicide. And, any assitant who is afraid to take a chance on a job at GW because he's concerned about working behind a young squirt HC ain't worth the hire. That job, if it opens up, is a plum, and an opportunity. A guy with confidence in his own abilities just might move up if his boss flounders, surely will have new possibilities if his boss succeeds.

MV, selling the same old story, huh? It did not sell 6 months ago, doesn't now. It's getting as stale as his French bread, brie, and rotted roast beef

Unless someone's got some new fossil that he's dug up, how about we put this petrified ML coprolite to bed. 

Life has moved on, BigFan.  Thinker, DMV Piranha are pondering the ponderable. ML and his best buddy have made their reputations with their peers, and been found wanting by their bosses. If they're smart, they'll take some remedial education, change their management styles, or move on.

As for national searches for every damn athletic department job, get over it. None of us would have worked a day, if a national search was done to hire us. The standard is absurd, especially when there's a top notch candidate on hand. What would you rather do? Have GWU turn away a qualified female candidate? How many lawsuits does it take to satisfy you knuckleheads. Heck, she'd, more so than ML, have a case.

 

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hugh5/15/2018 7:28:00 AM

Coming in with the hot take: An assistant coaching position with MoJo as HC is more attractive than it was with ML as HC. Being an assistant is all about recruiting. If anything, ML was a barrier to getting recruits to sign; MoJo is not.  

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danjsport5/15/2018 7:49:49 AM

hugh-I am hardly an ML advocate, but that take is absurd.  Lonergan brought in Tyler, yuta, zeke, creek, joe, Keegan, Pato, and Larsen.  Mojo has brought in....TNJ and Toro.  Hopefully recruiting gets better.  But that take is pretty unfair to ML

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hugh5/15/2018 8:06:57 AM

I’m referring to assistants bringing in recruits. Not overall recruiting. Subtle but important difference. Point being that ML probably made recruiting more difficult for assistants bc he had a reputation for being difficult to play for (I’m not commenting about whether the reputation was deserved, just that the reputation was there). That reputation barrier isn’t there with MoJo, hence making an assistant position more attractive now. 

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danjsport5/15/2018 8:43:31 AM

ml assistants could point to a coach that won and developed players, even if difficult to work for.  Mojo assistants may be able to state Mojo isn’t difficult to play for, but can’t yet point to winning or player development.  Each present obstacles.

bobo5/15/2018 8:53:38 AM

All potential assistant coaches know what we all know: Mojo could be fired after this upcoming season if things don't significantly improve for the team.   If MoJo is let go, GW will NOT hire one of his assistants to replace him.  They will look outside and bring in an entirely new staff.  

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mentzinger5/15/2018 9:19:31 AM

Sure, we're a top third program nationally ... but that doesn't mean we should interview head coaching or athletic director candidates beyond the 20052 Zip code.

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newgwfan5/15/2018 10:45:08 AM

He gone....

 

https://hoopdirt.com/siena-dirt-ii-2/

the mv5/15/2018 10:49:28 AM

I'm not in need of a sales pitch nor am I saying that no assistant coach would have any interest in GW right now.  I'll hypothetically add that say the #2 assistant at Fairleigh Dickinson or NJIT might jump at the chance to join MoJo's staff.  So, does this represent who we would want or we could realistically attract?  For all of Carm's faults, real or alleged, he seemed to be the assistant doing the most recruiting.  Should he leave, this will need to be replaced, either by a proven commodity or a younger go-getter who has a natural flair for recruiting.  Plus, there appears to be a need (in my opinion anyway) for a "bench coach" to help strategize and manage games.  Maybe Hajj is this guy but it looks like he and MoJo don't communicate with one another all that much, at least during games.

My previously stated list of concerns are real.  As Bobo indicates, the basketball coaching world is undoubtedly familiar with our circumstances.  Anyone who thinks I am mentioning this for no other reason than top to "sell a story" either isn't very bright or is simply deluding themselves. 

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gw695/15/2018 11:08:07 AM

I'm not bright and I am deluding myself.Lets wait and see what really happens -shall we?

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long suffering fan5/15/2018 11:17:25 AM

For better or, more likely, for worse, the program is much calmer now.  A permanent head coach, a new AD, even a new school president.  Not sure that the upheaval of the recent past should hinder us in looking for an assistant coach.   Hopefully there is someone out there with head coaching experience, to assist with the still novice Mojo with his in game decision making (specifically failing to adjust to game situations).    BTW Danj...Toro was a Lonergan recruit, not Mojo.

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the dude5/15/2018 1:07:21 PM

What Hugh said is not "absurd."  Its a natural conclusion derived from known facts. 

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brianpaul5/15/2018 1:12:00 PM

GW69: Analytical, pointed, and spot on. 

danjsport5/15/2018 2:11:01 PM

My mistake, LSF.  You're right.

 

I think what we can take away from all of this is simple.  Carm was a leaker for GW, got Loneran fired by anonymous leaking and then lost out on the GW job.  Then he tried to leak information about Patsos, got Patsos to resign, and lost out on that job.  Now he's taken an assistant coach job in Siena.  Jamion Christian better watch out!  (Please note that this post is sarcasm and not based on anything real or suspected).

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173.245.54.215/15/2018 2:54:48 PM

Siena's Jamion Christian will hire George Washington's Carmen Maciariello as an assistant coach, per a source. Maciariello is a 2001 Siena graduate and former player.

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dick maier5/15/2018 4:51:54 PM

Nobody is happier right now than Mojo. He's been waiting for this day for almost 2 years now.

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mojos friend5/15/2018 4:57:47 PM

Yeah except he wishes it wasn’t Carm 

the other mg5/15/2018 5:35:05 PM

Who we bring in to replace Carm will be very telling.  I have to agree with Bobo, that the tenuous status of the HC would make this a difficult position for a really good assistant candidate to accept.  But, The MV, if I'm reading Bobo's comment correctly, he is talking about candidates knowing the current situation, and you have interpreted his comment to mean something that may have happened to the guy who was coach three seasons ago from this fall, and an AD (and president) who are also no longer here, either.  I think potential candidates, especially those looking for a change, are looking at the here and now, and are less interested in the drama of the past than you are.  Unfortunately, I'm not sure the here and now is a great situation.

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gw scribe5/15/2018 5:38:06 PM

Bet you Hajj is extremely happy at this turn of events.

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bigfan5/15/2018 5:43:35 PM

Hope about since this guy is leaving anyway, for good or bad, those hinting like SienaSaint, Friend Of Mojo, GW Scribe and Dick Maier can be more explicit about what Carm did during his tenure here as it relates to Lonergan and Mojo and his fellow assistants?

gw scribe5/15/2018 5:52:15 PM

Allefedly stabbed Lonergan in the back and then pulled the knife out and went for Hajj. Is that clear enough for you Bigfan?

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bigfan5/15/2018 5:53:57 PM

Dick Maier is a zombie BF. A ghost-poster, concocted by a regular, to spin his tales. 

 

Ask Rich Maier, or ask Ms. Maier. Stop being a dope about that guy, Dick. 

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gw 185/15/2018 5:59:50 PM

It's also telling that Carm was the only coach to not tweet out about the alumni game (including Joe Mac)... 

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the mv5/15/2018 6:03:41 PM

The Other MG, I'm not sure why these need to be mutually exclusive options.  Isn't it entirely possible that someone within the coaching fraternity might be concerned about why ML was let go along with why the AD who he had a problem with is also no longer here, AND the here and now of this program?  Might someone wonder why all four ML assistants, each undoubtedly witnesses to ML's abusive behavior, were all still retained?  I would be more prone to agree with you had the program completely cleaned house but instead, the AD was retained until a new president came in and saw enough to let him go,  while the assistants were all retained with the least experienced of three options being named head coach.  This is all very peculiar; I'm not sure how anyone can make the case that this program has rebounded and is now past all of this.  If the program is past all of this, then I'm looking forward to contending again for NCAA tournament berths because that's precisely where this program used to be.  

Mike Rice physically abused players and it was on video for the world to see.  Everyone subsequently understands why he was fired.  Does everyone understand why ML was fired?  Because he verbally and emotionally abused players?  Or was it because he blew a whistle on his boss?  Which one was it?

Do you really believe that an experienced, qualified assistant coach looks at GW and says, "yeah, this sounds good" right about now?

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brianpaul5/15/2018 6:21:21 PM

5:53 post TO BigFan is BY me. BP. not BF

thinker5/15/2018 7:59:45 PM

Yes, MV. People in the business know why Lonergan got fired. He had a lot of problematic/abusive interactions with players and got into a horrendously nasty and personal battle with the AD. I doubt that anyone looking for a job at GW as a coach would look too much more deeply than that.

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bigfan5/15/2018 8:09:28 PM

Get the idea, Scribe and others. Got it before. And know all sorts of things about other relevant issues.

But what did Carm say and to whom?

neil5/15/2018 8:37:15 PM

I stated a month ago this snake was leaving.

 

Mojo best day in 2 years.

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gw scribe5/15/2018 11:03:41 PM

Wonder if Jamion Christian who is a really good coach knows what he is getting into?God Bless.

brianpaul5/15/2018 11:11:25 PM

Siena has smartly rid itself of an abuser HC, and they surely know about GW's abuser HC. No doubt though, in doing their due diligence, they spoke w. Nero, ex-Coach Lonegran, maybe even Fatso. You think they didn't come here, and look at what's in plain view?

Get over yourselves. 

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the other mg5/15/2018 11:53:33 PM

The MV, not a huge issue issue for me, but Bobo said "All potential assistant coaches know what we all know: MoJo could be fired after the current season.....".  No mention of the drama of the past.  You said, "As Bobo indicates, the basketball coaching world is undoubtedly familiar with our circumstances," and then went on to insult those posters who attacked you for "selling a story".  I read your comment about "our circumstances" to include the drama of the past, which Bobo didn't say.  Just clarifying why I said what I said in an earlier post.  I agree that the two points are not mutually exclusive, although I strongly believe that the here and now of the situation is more important to a live candidate for the 2018-2019 staff than the drama from years ago.

For the record, I am not one of those posters who attacked you, and basically agree with your somewhat pessimistic point of view on our chances of getting a really good assistant, primarily for the reasons Bobo pointed out about our current situation.  Of course, I hope we are both wrong!

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thinker5/16/2018 12:56:52 AM

Our ability to get a really good assistant is is mostly market related -

Who is looking for a better job? What are we paying? How many other openings are there? Who wants to work and live in DC as opposed to some out of the way campus? What's the recruiting budget - Can I fly a little more expensive flights? Rent a better car? Other than that, a guy will look at what it might be like working for MoJo, personally.

Many assistants work on year to year contracts anyway and MANY DI coaches are only one really bad year away from being fired themselves.

 

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gdub5/16/2018 6:53:18 AM

ML can’t get over that Jamion hires Carm. Mike has been bashing Carm for the last two years bc Mike has been trying to blame is firing on anyone he can but himself. Get over it!! Mike, Who you going to bash on the message board now that Carm is gone? 

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dmvpiranha5/16/2018 8:11:49 AM

Any idea on who could fill the assistant coach position? I don't know what the timeline is usually when selecting a new one, but I can't imagine it would be too long. There's the possibility that Hajj could return to being the #1 guy at least in the short term (though who knows what happens down the line - I'm sure he wasn't happy to be passed over by Mojo for head coach either). Given that Mojo, Hajj, and Chris all have connections to Vermont, it would be nice if we got someone who wasn't previously at a conference like the MAAC/America East/Patriot kind of league to shake things up. Considering that so much of the hiring has been done in house so far, it might be a good idea to get someone completely new with no ties to GW. It's probably a reach but maybe Mojo can get someone from MSU? Or Leblanc intervenes and we get someone from Miami? Regardless, it will be interesting to see what happens.

the mv5/16/2018 10:33:39 AM

The Other MG, not a huge deal for me either and I fully understand that you have not tried to attack me in any way.  Contrary to what some may think around here, I welcome discussions like the one we are having..a disagreement but one that is fair and done without attacks, name calling, or passive aggressive references.

I understand what you are saying and I think the reverse is true too.  In my mind, it is very hard to disconnect the "here and now" from the recent past, as it is the recent past that is largely to blame for the here and now.  A good way to put it is that GW now has a new president, a new athletic director (after a 4 month stint as an Interim), and a relatively new head coach (beginning his second season as permanent head coach following a year as an Interim).  Many might look at this picture and think that GW now has the right people in place and this represents a very stable program.  In terms of numbers of years, perhaps the AD and Head Coach will be given 3 or 4 years from now to show progress.  In a typical scenario, I think what I just wrote would be very reasonable.  However, in this particular situation, the feel is different.  IMO, there is a sense that MoJo could be relieved of his duties in as little as two years (some here feel in just 1 year) if progress isn't achieved.  As for the AD, is she firmly entrenched for the next 4 years?  Possibly, but not definitely, again IMO.  Frankly, my sense is that LeBlanc has both people in at "below-market" salaries, understandable when you are paying out a settlement to a former coach, and is willing to see if this can work.  If it doesn't, the old coach will be paid and the current house will be cleaned.  Just a theory. 

So if you are a would-be GW assistant, you ought to be evaluating this opportunity cautiously.  Again, an assistant at a lower-level program likely jumps at the chance regardless.  But a lower-level assistant at a major program, or a former head coach?  Someone who this program really needs right now?  To quote Lee Corso, "not so fast my friend."  

gw05095/16/2018 10:48:35 AM

Wouldn't be surprised to see Mojo reach out to Pete Strickland to see if he wants to help out for a year or two.

 

Another name that would be intriguing would be Angelo Hernandez from Wilson High.  Highly successful local public school coach who may be in need of new employment shortly, but has a knack for "recruiting."

zikkieboy5/16/2018 11:23:56 AM

If I like my post 40 times maybe people will believe my b.s. and stop making fun of me and Mrs. Zikkie.

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bigfan5/16/2018 11:58:15 AM

Obviously Joe is terrific, but maybe not ready yet for what we need, though would of course be great to see him move up. Joe has a bright future ahead of him and proud to say he is one of ours. Ditto for Chris. We also have Chris Monroe in the Athletic Dept. who is seasoned and made a lot of money in pro basketball. Would like someday for him to take an official basketball position , working daily with players. Should be a good recruiter because he made good money in pro basketball for years and can relate to parents and recruits. But yes, we may need someone with real experience this time. Either someone great at a lower level who is a star recruiter or someone at the equivalent or higher level who found themselves on the outs in the coaching carousel through no personal fault.

the other mg5/16/2018 1:08:17 PM

We are cool, The MV, and this is why I come back to this site, despite the sometimes ugly distractions.  I love my school and love my team, and crave good information and discussion about them.  I am hoping that, even with the HC’s situation, we can lure a great recruiter to our program, and, as a result, get better players back to GW.

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brianpaul5/16/2018 2:05:19 PM

MailFucker, GW 08 Alum, Dudette, GW Future, et al. Your post, 5/15/2018, 11:23:

 

       My wife died a slow, excruciating, horrifically painful death. Your repeated efforts to force me to relive that death insult her memory, and they are inhumane. You, and your every allusion to her

death, are despicable.

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the mv5/16/2018 2:14:50 PM

BrianPaul, if you are referring to me as MailFucker, please kindly keep me out of your issues. I have never posted as Zikkieboy, GW08 Alum, Dudette, GW Future, or as MailFucker.  Or as anyone else that I have not admitted to for that matter.

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thinker5/16/2018 4:18:30 PM

MV,

A coach will take a job at GW if its a better situation than they are in now. Lots of schools are shittier situations than GW.  Being an assistant coach can be a pretty shitty job to  begin with. If GW pays better, the head coach is easier to work with, DC is a better place to live and recruiting is easier because there a lot less travel - its a no  brainer for someone. Its  not better for everyone - but it is better for many.

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the mv5/16/2018 5:17:36 PM

Thinker, I have said on multiple occasions that a second assistant at a school like Fairleigh Dickinson or NJIT would likely be interested.  I am not taking the position that no basketball coach in America is going to want to join this staff.

My position all along has been whether this program can now attract the type of coach that this program wants or needs, rather than a coach it can simply "get."  A former head coach, a lower level assistant at a BCS type program, someone who can either be a huge asset towards game management and strategy or someone who has a proven track record as a solid recruiter.  GW69 got this right...this remains to be seen.

gw future5/16/2018 7:56:10 PM

Not me Brian but you knew that. I am beginning to think you like the drama. Sad.

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thinker5/16/2018 8:25:07 PM

MV,

I think almost any assistant who is at a mid-major or below would come to GW if we paid him $25 grand more than he's making now. Notable exceptions: if he is at a higher level mid-major like Dayton; if he is a top assistant who is line soon to apply for a HC position; doesnt want to move for whatever reasons.

Why? Because these jobs are regular jobs with regular people who make regular decisions like anybody else. Except in an industry with an extremely limited number of openings. If you are in need of a better job in a TINY industry then you arent going to turn away GW because Lonergan claims he got railroaded 2 years ago. Or because there is real pressure on MoJo to win or he might get fired. Because thats a normal condition in this industry. No job in coaching is stable and secure past a year or two.

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mike k5/16/2018 8:42:38 PM

Speaking of salary, what is the salary range for A-10 assistant coaches?

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gw695/16/2018 8:48:28 PM

Great post Thinker.Sounds right to me.

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brianpaul5/17/2018 4:50:55 PM

MV, Mail Van, MailFucker, GW 08 Alum, Dudette, GW Future, et al. Your post, 5/15/218, 11:23:

 

You’ve got an extensive history of this sort of filth. You’ve been making rancid comments, telling smarmy lies, since you’ve been here: you, Oscar, Blue Seats, Seneca.
 

You lied about, libeled, Jack Kvancz, even found a way to lie about, and muddy up, Tom Penders. Who the Hell needs to do that?  You’re the sadist who first referenced my wife’s dead body to support your false narratives, to support your lies. And you’re responsible for every God  damned time this hate-filled sleaze has been repeated.

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the mv5/17/2018 5:42:26 PM

BrianPaul, if you are referring to me as MailFucker, please kindly keep me out of your issues. I have never posted as Zikkieboy, GW08 Alum, Dudette, GW Future, or as MailFucker.  Or as anyone else that I have not admitted to for that matter.

 

 

 

brianpaul5/17/2018 5:49:54 PM

This whole board is a bunch of anti-semetic, homo-phobic, Trump hating, illegal alien loving bastards! Block me and I will change names. Ignore me and I will post 10 more times in an hour. Make fun of me and I will have my Ziik family members curse you for years to come.

mrs ziik5/17/2018 6:27:58 PM

Please forgive my ex for all his crazy posts. I left him years ago because he is mentally ill.

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gw fan5/17/2018 11:52:22 PM

Image result for rats leaving sinking ship

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brianpaul5/18/2018 11:56:01 AM

Peter, MV,  MailFucker, GW 08 Alum, Dudette, GW Future, Faux BrianPaul, Faux mrs. ziik , et al. Your post, 5/15/2018, 11:23:

 

 

 

       My wife died a slow, excruciating, horrifically painful death. Your repeated efforts to force me to relive that death insult her memory, and they are inhumane. You, and your every allusion to her

 

death, are despicable.

 

 

 

 

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the mv5/18/2018 12:59:01 PM

You have a lot of nerve Brian Paul. Other than this name I have only posted as Blue Seats, Bo Knows, and GW Future. And The Douche . And Mailvan.  And Dick Maier.  And four other names I am not at Liberty to reveal right now. How dare you sir.  

tucker5/18/2018 1:15:08 PM

Any idiot who has been following this board for any time knows that MV and Blue Seats could not possibly be the same person as the bickering between the two was legendary. Doubt GW Future or Bo Knows are MV either based on writing style and common sense. Can’t speak to the other names. Speaking of names where is Bo Knows? Haven’t seen him posting here in awhile. That said, I’ll excuse Brian’s rantings and behavior here as the product of unresolved grief. I wish you all the best Brian as you come to terms with awful circumstances.

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